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The styling of the 04 Mustang and the 05 Mustang are completely different. The 04 mustang was built to look like a sports car. The SN197 mustangs, however, are built to liken back to the days of the older stangs, and as such have a very strong muscle car appearance. Personally, I love my '04 Mustang GT. Would I trade it for another vehicle? Certainly, if I get the right offer. But for my money, I don't think there's a car I could have been happier with. |
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| I am impressed with the new Camero. This is coming from a Ford Mustang man. When I was a kid, I owned a 67 GT 2+2 Fastback, and later a 2004 Torch Red Convertible. To show ballance, I owned a 1980 Z28 4 speed with T tops. Anyway, I just saw the Camero convertible. I still have to get used to the shape, which I do not like, but the interior is just great. I am glad GM got rid of the fools who were responsible for the dull and cheesy interiors in GM cars and hired people who can put a modern yet nice retro style in the Camero. Will I buy a Camero? No. But I look forward to the Camero vs Mustang rivalry again. A good stong competiton improves both products. | |
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Come on! What Kid wouldn't want the new Mustang GT? It looks great. Now compared to a Charger R/T... What kid would pick a 'Stang over the style of the Next Camaro? Answer? Not many. It's for the Boomers, not the New School. I hope my father likes it. But I sure don't. The Next Camaro WILL get me over the threshold, and into a showroom.  DrFill |
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Replying to: drfill (Jan 06, 2007 9:52 pm) The Mustang concept was great. I would've spend $50k for it. Fot the production Mustang - I wouldn't be caught dead in. My guess is that the new Camaro will also be a great addition to the ren-a-car fleet.... |
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Come on DrFill, get off the Crack and on to reality. If the Camero were such a winner, why did GM stop production? The answer is simple. It was a sales dog. Few people were buying it, not young or old. Contrast that with the yearly sales for the New Mustang. In the years 05 & 06, the numbers are in the range of 150,000 plus. By the time GM gets the Camero for sale in 2009, the New Mustang will have been out there for 4 years and will have over 600,000 on the road. The Camero will have to compete against a product that defined the term Pony Car, is a mature product, and a proven sales leader. Why would anyone want to buy a copy of the real thing? (Would you would buy a Kia, if they claimed to make Pony Cars, too?) The Camero will be a tough sell in 2009, since the Mustang has established itself and defined the car category, compound that with the fact that the Challenger is a much better looking car. The Camero will end up as it always has, in the shadow of the Mustang. |
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Does anyone know if the 2009 Camaro is going to come in Z28?
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Replying to: rorr (Nov 10, 2006 1:12 pm) "Excellent point. Doesn't the C6 use a transaxle? No way GM would be offering a transaxle in what should be (at least nominally) a 4 seat vehicle." = = = The C6 ( my daily driver is a 2007 ) has the transmission mounted in the rear – and co-located with the differential. It is not, however, [ strictly speaking ] a transaxle. They are separate units. Other GM vehicles using versions of this transmission ( including the 2007 Caddy STS V8s ) mount it immediately behind the motor. The issues here ( in my opinion ) are that the 6L80 six speed automatic ( as in my C6 ) is a rather expensive and fairly heavy item. The Tremec T56 manual six speed transmission is robust, but has issues as well . . . If a six speed automatic is deemed necessary, the version of the automatic in the 2007 Caddy STS V8s ( 6L50 ) might be a candidate for something less powerful that a 400 \ 400 LS2 motor. The other issue is that the C6 has an IRS – again complex & expensive. I am not convinced that this will even be optional on the Camaro. I’d have looked far more seriously at the Mustang GT, if an IRS ( and any sort of manumatic shifting ) had been available. . . - Ray Happy C6 driver! 1 Source: http://media.gm.com/us/powertrain/en/product_services/2007/07car.htm |
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 "Zeta is a very versatile architecture. The front axle centerline on the Camaro is about 50mm further forward than it is on the Holden Commodore (and therefore the Pontiac G8, the lightly made-over Commodore sedan that will debut at the Chicago Show next month). The reason for this expensive change is that it allows the Camaro - and the Impala - to run 20-inch wheels without compromising steering lock. In fact, says one Holden source, 24s will fit. Both the Camaro coupe and convertible concept are therefore very close to the production versions, say GM insiders. The roof of the coupe will be raised about 15mm for production, and the bodysides will be pulled in 5-10mm. But that's about it. What you see here at Detroit is basically what you're going to get in Chevy showrooms in 2009. Cost has been a major issue for Camaro. But GM sources say entry level versions will retail from about $21,000. That's because they will use the cheap-to-build pushrod 3.9-liter V-6 as the entry level engine. Insiders say Tom Stephens' team at GM Powertrain has been working flat out to improve the refinement of the 3.9. Mated with the six speed - manual or automatic - it should be a much smoother package than the truck-like 4.0-liter V-6 that powers base Mustangs." http://www.motortrend.com/features/auto_news/2007/112_0702_2009_chevrolet_camaro- |
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