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Back in the muscle car era, you didn't have to be rich to drive a Mustang, Camaro, or a Challenger, even if they had the big engines in them. All 3 of these cars should be priced under $30K or they just aren't going to sell in large enough numbers to make it worthwhile for their companies to build them.
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Replying to: bottgers (Jan 16, 2006 5:23 pm) -------------------------------------------- I agree but I think the base price needs to be under 25k. 30k is still too much for the young guys who would love these cars. Under 25k means a smaller, lighter body and a smaller engine. A sharp looking coupe with 250hp that weighed under 3000lbs could be a lot of fun. The price would be lower, the mileage would be better, the insurance would be lower. Makes a lot more sense to me than a 3800lb car with 400hp that costs 35k. |
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This should satisfy all those wanting the Camaro to be affordable and come with a V6.
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I didn't explain myself very well. Back in the day (1980's) you could buy many cars with all the go-fast goodies without having to buy the car in the top-of-the-line trim level. For example, you could buy a Mustang LX with all the same driveline and suspension equipment as the GT, without having to pay the extra money for all the bells and whistles of the GT. The result was a car that was just as fast (sometimes even faster) and handled just as well as a GT for thousands less $$$. Camaros and Regals could be had the same way. I had both an LX 5.0 and a Turbo Regal (both very fast cars!) This is what they need to do with these modern day muscle cars. They could offer an "RS" (if you will) model of the Camaro with all the performance stuff of a completely optioned out Camaro, but for $7K-$8K less. This would probably put a 400 HP Camaro priced in the low 20's. Tell me you wouldn't have to put your name on a waiting list to get one of those! Same thing with the new Challengers. They wouldn't be able to build them fast enough!
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Replying to: bottgers (Jan 19, 2006 4:22 pm) And you hinted at the REASON you won't see this anytime soon in your own post. Demand. If Ford dealers are able to get MSRP (or perhaps more) on virtually EVERY stinkin' Mustang GT they can lay their hands on, why should Ford even CONSIDER offering a stripped version with JUST the go-fast goodies? Wouldn't it be in their financial best interest (since they sell virtually as fast as the factory can crank them out) to sell higher profit GT models vs. a modern LX version? Same goes for the Camaro: IF (and this is a big if), they can sell every loaded Z28 edition they can possibly build, why reduce their profit by offering a stripped RS model? Why not wait until the demand has cooled, and then offer the stripped models with the big motor to spur sales? In other words, I love the concept of stipped models with all the REAL go-fast goodies, but I wouldn't expect to see such an animal for several years after introduction. |
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That's what I'm saying. GM and Chrysler aren't going to be selling the Camaros and Challengers like hot cakes if they end up pricing them at $30K or more. It's gonna be the F-Bodies all over again. These cars will end up sitting on the lots until the dealers discount them enough to sell them. Why not make them available both ways so those who want either can have it their way? If the big 3 want to dig themselves out of the finacial quandry they've gotten themselves into, they're going to have to realize they need to give Joe public what they want, and quit trying to force what they want to give us down our throats.
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Replying to: bottgers (Jan 20, 2006 10:12 am) Don't know about the Challenger and the ability to sell at over $30k. I don't think Chrysler intends to move NEARLY as many units as Ford (or even GM) so the $30k base price level may not be a killer. Plus, for some reason I've never really figured out the Mopar nuts out there; who knows what they'd be willing to spend...   Agree on the Camaro. GM needs to get this car to market for a base of $25-26k for the V8 version. Which is why IMO the LS2 will drop by the wayside somewhere between the concept version and the production version. Too pricey and the car should be quick enough with 'only' 300hp from their 5.3l V8. Can someone explain to me why GM NEEDS a 100hp advantage in order to be competitive with Ford?
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...so much more expensive? I see no reason the Camaro couldn't be sold WITH the LS2 for around $25K.
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so here's something to revive this thread. The Making of the Camaro Concept. Camaro
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