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#47 of 66 Challenger is 4.7 inches wider and 10.2 inches longer than Mustang by hpmctorque Apr 24, 2006 (5:28 am)
"...The Challenger concept packs a 425-hp, 6.1-liter Hemi V-8. It's also 4.7 inches wider and 10.2 inches longer than the 2006 Mustang..."   While I like the Challenger's styling, its size and weight are unappealing to me. I understand that the Challenger's dimensions were dictated by the business case to use the large Chrysler RWD platform, rather than by a "hey, the Mustang is nice, but it's too small; we've got to make the Challenger bigger and heavier" mentality, but still... I say, that's unfortunate, while understanding that the Challenger's sales volume wouldn't be sufficient to justify a separate platform.   From what I've read about the Camaro concept, it will be closer to the Challenger's size than the Mustang's, which, incidentally, is already significantly larger and heavier than the original Mustang, or even the slightly larger '67-'68 Mustang (my personal favorite).   I realize that most enthusiasts aren't as concerned as I am about the size and weight of the new pony cars, but in this day of high fuel costs, wouldn't it make more sense for the equivalent power to weight values to be achieved by keeping the size of the new generation of pony cars similar to the original versions?   Incidentally, my favorite Camaros, from a styling standpoint, is the '82-'92 generation. The '67s-'70s are also nice, of course. Replies to this message: m1miata (Apr 24, 2006 6:26 pm)
#48 of 66 Re: Challenger is 4.7 inches wider and 10.2 inches longer than Mustang [hpm by m1miata Apr 24, 2006 (6:26 pm)
Replying to: hpmctorque (Apr 24, 2006 5:28 am) Exactly! You are so right. They need to make the car slightly smaller than the first generation Camaro, use some aluminum to keep the weight in less than 3,200#, and use an efficient V6 which can give her around 22/30MPG. Also, keep it simple. Have the side air bags standard, and an inexpensive anti-lock brake and traction control for those wanting to add those items. A basic radio and basic air and such, with an option pkg. for those needing a fancier car. Price it around $21K. And please - please NO more high rise doors, with shrinking windows. If it is required to make the side impact test results higher, so be it, but please at a certain point enough is enough. The 350Z styling is just out of control. -Loren
#49 of 66 Circling back... by hpmctorque Apr 24, 2006 (7:53 pm)
Incidentally, my quote in message #47 regarding the size comparison between Challenger and Mustang is from the Automotive News website.   I agree with you that high rise doors detract from styling, m1miata.
#50 of 66 check this by dabachelor Apr 25, 2006 (4:50 am)
THE CAMARO IS BETTER THAN THE MUSTANG IN JUST ABOUT ALL PLACES RIGHT? BUT WHO HAS MORE HORSES THE MUSTANGS SHAPE IS DESENT BUT IT DOESNT BREAK THE WIND ENOUGH?ON A DRAG STRIP WHO WOULD WIN CAMARO OR SHELBY GT 500 U TELL ME. Replies to this message: rorr (Apr 25, 2006 7:00 am)
#51 of 66 Re: check this [dabachelor] by rorr Apr 25, 2006 (7:00 am)
Replying to: dabachelor (Apr 25, 2006 4:50 am) First off, welcome to Edmunds.   Now, turn OFF your Caps Lock. There's no need to shout.   Second, who knows who is 'better'. The last time I saw any sort of comparison test was several years ago.   OH, you mean comparing the CONCEPT Camaro to the PRODUCTION Mustang, right?   "BUT WHO HAS MORE HORSES"   We will know the answer to that question when the PRODUCTION Camaro hits the market and we can then compare that to what the production Mustang has. Most folks have acknowledged that the 400hp LS2 probably won't be the base V8 (Z28) option but would probably appear in a Camaro SS version. The Z28 would probably get the 5.3l making somewhere around 310 - 320hp.   "THE MUSTANGS SHAPE IS DESENT BUT IT DOESNT BREAK THE WIND ENOUGH?"   In all honesty, I don't think either of these cars are some sort of aerodynamic champion. In this segment, styling goes a lot further than aero.   "ON A DRAG STRIP WHO WOULD WIN CAMARO OR SHELBY GT 500 U TELL ME."   Who knows? But assuming you are talking about an LS2 equipped Camaro (400hp / 400 ftlbs.) vs. a Shelby GT500 (in excess of 450hp /450 ftlbs.), on paper the Shelby seems to have an advantage. Of course, I've no idea what an LS2 Camaro would weigh (and the GT500 is certainly no lightweight), and who knows which does a better job of getting all the power to the ground.   Maybe we should just wait until these cars are actually BUILT before guessing who would win....?
#52 of 66 Chevy Camaro Concept by camaro41106 Apr 25, 2006 (11:28 am)
Replying to: hpmctorque (Jan 09, 2006 2:12 am) The camaro concept is a freakingg sexy car IMO and its gonna be pretty quick. and also why doesnt anyone like the huge rims? i think they look good... Replies to this message: m1miata (Apr 25, 2006 7:41 pm)
#53 of 66 Re: Chevy Camaro Concept [camaro41106] by m1miata Apr 25, 2006 (7:41 pm)
Replying to: camaro41106 (Apr 25, 2006 11:28 am) Your local tire store will love those wagon wheels I see no need for anything more than 16" wheels, though the 17" wheels may be needed for even larger brakes, if the car is indeed heavy. 16 or 17 fine, but come on what is with all these 18 to 20" wheels? Weight, unsprung weight is the enemy here. The car itself should be around 2800#, though anything up to 3200# would be awesome with a good sized six. GM should keep the most HP in the Corvette. Those willing to pay the big bucks, should have the top engine HP. A V8 of 305HP would be quick in a lighter car. Handling would be more agile than a Stang. Simple power is only good in a straight line. That is easily beaten the next year by the competition. Pretty easy to just keep adding raw power. Proper suspensions, steering feel, and weight would make the Camaro the true winner over the Stang and Challenger. -Loren
#54 of 66 Holdon will ruin it by jonniedee Apr 28, 2006 (6:25 pm)
The Holdon news is sad - these same Aussies ruined the GTO Replies to this message: m1miata (May 01, 2006 9:59 pm)
#55 of 66 Re: Holdon will ruin it [jonniedee] by m1miata May 01, 2006 (9:59 pm)
Replying to: jonniedee (Apr 28, 2006 6:25 pm) Holden Monaro is not a bad car. Pontiac GTO, it may not be, but I would not blame the Australia division for that. Looks like they make several nice models of cars there. If a car is going to have GTO or Camaro on the name fixed on the body, then it should be American. Time to make a new chassis for a Nova and Camaro compact and a Malibu ( or Monte ) and Impala larger, what they use to call mid-sized car. The largest cars should be the Buick or Caddy. Maybe a Buick or Chevy in a mid-size FWD for all those in snow country. But most of the line should go RWD.   The Nova / Camaro class could replace the Cobalt. There are more than enough little FWD cars out there. -Loren
#56 of 66 Re: Camaro fan [irg] by karr Nov 05, 2006 (5:47 pm)
Replying to: irg (Jan 09, 2006 12:26 pm) There is a big reason the new camaro may not do so well. They need to take lessons from dodge and ford, people want the 67-69 muscle car look and will buy. The concept is not close enough to attract these buyers, I and about 15 of my buddies were super excited until we saw the pics. I think i'll go the chrysler or ford route instead.When I see chevys concept it's not even close to what the 40-55 year old buyer bracket want, GET IT RIGHT OR IT WILL FLOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Replies to this message: m1miata (Jan 28, 2007 11:48 am) jharvey6 (Aug 11, 2007 6:33 pm) m1miata (Aug 12, 2007 1:54 pm) mjt7712 (Jul 30, 2007 1:36 am) m1miata (Aug 02, 2007 8:58 pm)

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