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Re: New Camaro [texasmerq]
by camaross
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Mar 12, 2006 (10:47 am)
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Replying to: texasmerq (Jan 13, 2006 6:49 pm)
I'm trilled their bringing the Camaro back to life - They should have never dropped it. What they need to do is have a more modern interpretion, with just enough Camaro characteristics to make you know it's a Camaro - Like the 3rd generation vs. the second generation. It shouldn't take the Mustang's or Challenger's approach - No imagination and no appeal to younger buyers, which the Camaro needs to save alive 
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- #39 of 66
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Re: Chevy Camaro Concept [o4impalass]
by i_mtheiceman
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Mar 19, 2006 (1:49 pm)
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Replying to: o4impalass (Jan 13, 2006 2:20 pm)
I agree. Chevy missed a grand opportunity when Pontiac snagged the Australian Chevy as a Gaudy Tired Operator. That car should have been the Chevelle SS, and the Camaro needs to look like a muscle car. The reason Mustangs are selling is not the performance, man even the 2002 Camaro will blow them away. They're selling because they look like a muscle car. Same with the Dodge. Chevy in the past few years has really crapped things up. I'm reminded of the Vega debacle. First they turn the Nova into a roller skate, then they embarass we who are Monte Carlo fans with this moronic six cylinder driven hunk of Nascar trash, reduce the Impala to a Corolla of sorts, and make a very cool looking Panel imitation with nothing but a four cylinder underpowered Cobalt engine. If they mess with the Vette, I'm gone as a Chevy owner. (I've been one since 1968, by the way). The hottest thing they make nowdays (if you exclude the Vette and the SSR) is their pickup, and the new front end on the pickups (especially the dog ugly colorado) makes me cringe. It hurts me deeply to watch the bowtie turned into a necktie, 'cause the next step is a noose, and I think they are shooting themselves in the foot with the product they're producing. It may be just an opinion, but it's all mine.
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vis-a-vis
by twanab
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Mar 20, 2006 (10:58 pm)
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I only have a few things to say: my father bought an '05 black mustang, put some stripes on it and a set of 20" rims, making it an outstanding muscle car. Probably the best in this city, sure its a v6 but who cares, it looks good. Since then I know I want to do the same, yet I can't get the same make he has and think that I can make a better looking car and I'm not all that into foriegn cars. Then the concept camaro appeared and allowed me to dream. It might not have muscle the mustang has, but I'm pretty sure I have came up w/a design that would put mine beside his. As long as they keep the same ... design? whatever it is, I'm sure I can put 10k into and be proud to drive it. And my opinion is that big wheels are still in, just have to choose the rights one and not the over-rated spokes.
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- #41 of 66
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Re: vis-a-vis [twanab]
by m1miata
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Mar 21, 2006 (10:57 pm)
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Replying to: twanab (Mar 20, 2006 10:58 pm)
The 20" wheels may make a Stang a show car, as in bling-bling, but that has nothing to do with muscle car. The V6 is just fine with 16" or even 17". The suspension on a car is designed for use with particular diameter and weight wheels. The GT doesn't work better with 20", though I am sure the tire people like the extra money. Come to think of it, muscle cars would be 15" wheels.
Yes, the New Camaro looks pretty cool. A bit wide, and I would imagine a bit heavy. I would make a smaller car, which would be lighter, and use the 3.6 V6 out of the CTS for the engine. By the time the New Camaro is released, gas could be $3.50 a gallon or more - who knows? A lighter engine is easier for getting to 50/50 weight distribution. Then they could add the optional V8 for those in need for more HP, at any cost. Something around 325HP or so would do.
-Loren
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new camaro
by 69camarolover
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Apr 17, 2006 (7:57 pm)
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can someone give me some closer. im seein two styles of the new camaro. which one is comin out. the silver concept dosent appeal to me but the orange one im seein is beautiful.
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- #43 of 66
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Re: new camaro [69camarolover]
by m1miata
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Apr 21, 2006 (5:52 pm)
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Replying to: 69camarolover (Apr 17, 2006 7:57 pm)
I do believe the orange or orange/red one you are referring to was a drawing done by a student of design, and not the concept car. Yes, it looks excellent. The silver one is the GM concept car. It is typical, let's be sure it is aggressive and bulked up, new approach to cars to sell to the SUV / macho image crowd. A drift away from the Pony sporty car, with options to make it a muscle car. These are suppose to be buff, or bad, or whatever. Just looks too big overall to me. Too wide, and less graceful. That said, it is pretty good. A good start. Make this one, or the " orange car " in something smaller and lighter, put a good 250HP engine in it and be sure the MPG hits 30 MPG and it may sell well indeed. Gas in CA. is headed towards $3.50 a gallon in short time. -Loren
P.S. GM should price this under $21K, with a V8 for $25K
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that sucks
by 69camarolover
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Apr 22, 2006 (10:08 am)
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then i must kiss chevy good bye. im gonna be goin with the new dodge challenger then. its lookin a whole lot like the original and its a beautiful car. its sad though cause i've only owned chevy's but there disapointing me on this one. it looks nothing like the 69 and its just plane ugly. so if they come out with the silver concept then dodge will be my new car. thanks for the reply.
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Re: that sucks [69camarolover]
by irocman
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Apr 22, 2006 (6:41 pm)
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Replying to: 69camarolover (Apr 22, 2006 10:08 am)
this message is for those who call themselves camaro lovers. i,m die hard camaro/chevy. the new camaro concept is badass. i was quite pissed off when GM announced the death of the camaro/firebird. i was ready to go to GM's headquarters with my '85 IROC and swing donuts on the front lawn of the building. i can't stand mustangs, or any other ford claiming supremacy over the camaro. i don't think so. yeah, it's been a couple of years since camaro talk has really sufaced. but i'm glad they finally brought a thought to the table. no matter what the camaro looks like, as always it will out-perform all mustangs and challengers to come!!!! for those who comment on the color of the concept, GET REAL!!! CONCEPT!!! do you understand the word? if a true fan you'll have no doubt, as i, that the next camaro will make you wet your pants. trust me my money is already in the bank awaiting it's arrival. for those with ponys,5.slows,dodge whatevers,oh yeah and you import guys get used to seeing taillights.
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Re: that sucks [irocman]
by m1miata
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Apr 23, 2006 (9:22 am)
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Replying to: irocman (Apr 22, 2006 6:41 pm)
Whoa, too much coffee. Take five! He was talking about two different car concepts, and not the color. The orange car was a concept only on paper. The silver the concept by GM. As for supremacy of Camaro vs. Mustang, the answer is it depends on which car suits one best. True, the Camaro SS was or is ahead of the Mustang in HP. But some found the car to be harder to see out of, or harder to drive in town. The Camaro and Mustang ended up being different in nature, and both fit those particular needs. I like the look of the last Camaro and the first Camaro the best. The show car, if they lower the door window sills a bit and narrow and lighten it, looks fine by me.
Mustang was the first Pony car, and has outsold Camaro.
So in that respect it has dominated the scene.
Beware the first two years of a launch of a new domestic car, as they often have bugs still in the cars.
The '85 IROC you say! Hey, I was amazed to see the State Troopers in Nevada driving those Camaros years ago. And now CA has a few Camaros too. And they get to drive fast with no tickets. 
-Loren
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