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Well that's a loaded question. Originally the LS and CTS battled the "Entry luxury" segment, which ideally were direct competitors. Both entry sedans to luxury domestic makers, with European dynamics. Ford repositioned the LS above the Zephyr, so if you wish to call the Zephyr the direct competitor to CTS, it actually is in segment and price. Although it's different markets/demographics which each is targeting. So you may do with that information as you wish. The MKS in ideology is really the replacement to the LS, BUT it's mission is a bit different, and placed above the Zephyr in segment and pricing. The MKS will very much be a great handler, don't let the AWD or exterior size fool you. And the even larger sedan, has yet to be released...
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Any comparison specs for the Mark S? As you stated the MKS is the "replacement" for the LS. Which models are they competing with? So when will we see the longer version? I have a feeling it will be called the MKC. Tag line: "Just because we call it the "Continental" doesn't mean you can't drive it all over the world."  ANT14, you think Lincoln could use that in a commercial? Probably sounds to much like a Lexus commercial  I like the name. A page from ANT14's script style Buddy: What car is that? Me: It's a Mark S Buddy: Lincoln is it? Me: Yep Buddy: I use to have a Mark VII. Boy that thing could get up and go. Me: I guess it is like what Ford did with the T-Bird. A new take on old legend. |
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Replying to: ANT14 (Jan 09, 2006 12:08 pm) Things are changing at Lincoln, that is for sure. The MKS concept is interesting enough to keep me waiting to see how it works out. |
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I posted: You may some pretty good points Originally wrote: you may have a pretty good point. Meant to edit as you make some pretty good points. Oh well 
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Notice the low RPM at which this version of the 4.4 develops its power - if correct, the tuning must be quite a bit different from version used in the Volvo X90. Chassis tuning will be a critical component in whether the MKS finds a home in my garage. I hope they don't go all-out hard-edged "sport" sedan with this - yet certainly not blue-hair soft either. I have always thought the ride/handling balance of the non-sport LS was perfect for the potholed streets and expansion joint filled freeways here in Minneapolis. Will we be looking at standard (fairly compliant) and optional "sport" suspension versions of the MKS? Also, they will need to pay attention to road and wind noise isolation. How about Lexus levels of quiet yet with just enough induction and exhaust rumble under acceleration to make it interesting? Lastly, I really hope they sweat some of the details. If I open the hood and am greeted by a prop-rod, I will be tempted to jerk out the rod and beat someone with it.
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Replying to: brucelinc (Jan 10, 2006 5:33 am)  "Lastly, I really hope they sweat some of the details. If I open the hood and am greeted by a prop-rod, I will be tempted to jerk out the rod and beat someone with it." Too funny . Would like to see Lincoln offer up this new ride in a "one size fits all" package like Acura does. Make NAV and RES separate entities on the checkoff sheet, but make Leather seating, HIDS, Premium Sound, TCS, VSC, all the goodies STANDARD across the board. It really helps the image as a Premium nameplate. A coupe and Conv. option should be in the works to keep the momentum, and don't let this one languish on the lots unchanged (and unmarketed  ) like the outgoing LS! Customer doesn't want all those goodies can fall back on the Mercury Montego or 500. 
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The drivability of the vehicle will be LS sporty, but (for those with the optional 17inch wheels on the LS), less "noise" or vibration when hitting potholes. You know you hit it, but not be as aware as you are with the LS. At least, that has been my experience. And the interior will be much quieter than that of the LS. Which in turn, some of the interior materials will require re-thinking, since some resonate sounds, more than others. It's amazing how something as the materials, can contribute to overall noise. |
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Replying to: anythngbutgm (Jan 10, 2006 9:09 am) ANT, I haven't seen the weight listed anywhere. With the 4.4, can we expect 0-60 times in the high 5/low 6 range? By the way, based on your description, the driving dynamics sound very appealing. Don't forget - no prop-rods. 
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Replying to: brucelinc (Jan 10, 2006 12:27 pm) "What's Edmunds' Take? Although inoffensive, the MKS just isn't pretty or interesting enough to bring Lincoln back from the dead. Or Oldsmobile for that matter. — Ed Hellwig" That is what I was afraid of...other people seeing what I see...too safe, too derivative, in a market that is exploding with innovation and high tech quality. Again, let me say, the MKS is far better than anything Lincoln offers now (the last LS perhaps an exception). But by the time it is introduced, it will be even more yesterday's news. It's sad that a division that produced the original Zephyr, the Marks I, II, III, VII and VIII, the 1960s Lincoln Continentals, etc., can only give us proposals for safe and contemporary stuff. Let the designers loose, for godsake!
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