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Lincoln MKS, Sedan
#664 of 2971 Re: Where is Ford Taking Lincoln? [nvbanker]
Dec 04, 2006 (8:04 am)
And they would have had it 3 years ago, if they had brought the 2002 Continental concept to market. But then think also how much further ehead Ford would be if they had simply re-skinned the Crown Vic to look like the 427 concept (both of these would have out-300ed the 300). And both could have been done on the old Panther platform that is still soldering on and dying of neglect.
Then if Ford had brought the NaviCross to market for Lincoln, and made the Forty Nine concept into the new Thunderbird (the back seat alone would have saved the T-bird in the marketplace)....well, woulda, coulda, shoulda.
If this company had any conception of what their periodic successes were built on, we would not have seen them use the same bodies for more than a decade, e.g., the Ranger from 1993 to the present (the platform actually goes back to 1984), the Mustang from 1979 to 1994, the current Crown Vic/GM dating from 1991, etc. etc.
I do hope there is a new MKZ planned for 2010 at the latest and that they are already at work on the next versions of the MKS and MKX. But I wouldn't count on it.
#665 of 2971 Re: Where is Ford Taking Lincoln? [gregg_vw]
Dec 04, 2006 (9:05 am)
Wow, did anyone see after getting a very slow start, Ford Five Hundred sales were down 53% last month?
Note to MKS "designers":-That's what blah styling gets you.
Bold Moves, huh?
Dec 04, 2006 (5:22 pm)
Ford was "trippin'" so to speak with this one. No one liked this-Ford new that-and yet here come the head of Ford saying "THe 300 looks nice. The 500 looks just as good, and will probably sell better." Must I continue? And like you guys said, they could have reskinned Crown Vic as a 427 (with power, please!) and brought Continental concept and had a hit. I don't think they looked Quite as good as 300, but my oppinion. Ford was stupid then, and now-though they've learned from mistakes (must I dropnames-cough Aviator) they're still a little block headed and stubborn.
#667 of 2971 Re: 500 [albook]
Dec 04, 2006 (5:34 pm)
#668 of 2971 Mercury Freestyle
Dec 05, 2006 (1:06 pm)
What happened to lincoln/mercury freestyle? Unlike ford, this concept looked NICE!
#669 of 2971 Re: Mercury Freestyle [albook]
Dec 05, 2006 (1:26 pm)
Ford killed it. They were going to bring out the Meta One and discontinue the Ford Freestyle. Instead, they decided to re-do the front of the 2008 Freestyle and kill the Meta. This probably occurred after they decided not to offer third row seating in the Edge. In any event, they will regret giving Mercury such short shrift. They can't even sell 50,000 Milans per year, and in that category, they should be moving more like 100,000. As long as Mercury remains an afterthought of this screwed up company, it will not be any more than that.
Actually, I think the MKS should have been a Mercury...one that could compete with Chrysler and Buick. Lincoln still needs the Continental.
#670 of 2971 Re: Mercury Freestyle [gregg_vw]
Dec 05, 2006 (7:56 pm)
"Actually, I think the MKS should have been a Mercury..."
I've come to the conclusion that Mercury is toast. They've set it up that way and Mulally I think will pull the plug. There's nothing new in the pipe for Mercury as far as we know. Nothing special. Just the me-tooness of the Montego, Milan and Mariner. So easy to just erase the Mercury on the side and make em Ford trim levels. Lincoln, meanwhile, is getting lots (from the perspective of Fomoco) of new product and lets face it - cheapened product at that. One could say that Lincoln is moving down market to sit just above where Mercury used to be when it had a personality of it's own other than Jill Wagner.
#671 of 2971 Re: Mercury Freestyle [heyjewel]
Dec 05, 2006 (8:12 pm)
Say what you want, but don't diss Jill Wagner.
#672 of 2971 Re: Mercury Freestyle [scootertrash]
Dec 05, 2006 (8:51 pm)
"don't diss Jill Wagner."
Wasn't wouldn't nope not me - I won't diss that gal. She don't ness'ly make me wanna buy some wheels, but takin a ride does come to mind.
#673 of 2971 THe death of Mercury
Dec 07, 2006 (5:39 pm)
You guys know ford might have to kill someone off. After they get rid of one of their many British brands, Mercury is definitely next. If the new MKS and other future lincolns don't leave the floor, It's not Lincoln going down the tube-yet.