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Lincoln MKS, Sedan
Jan 23, 2013 (8:04 am)
Even though no appointment necessary and they were extremely busy, they serviced and checked my brake issue, posted here earlier, and was not duplicated on a recent visit. Maybe I should have insisted upon driving another one myself.
I need to do a bit of background work myself since VIN does not pop the TSB that took place three days prior to my build or any recall. Appearance of rear rotors wear pattern has been the same as front prior to performing TSB for the front. That is the pads have/had not been making contact with the outer 1/4" of the rotor. If you understand the principles of torque, braking in this example, the outer portion would yield the most torque/braking.
Results of inspection showed 3mm pad left rear, 6+mm right rear. The front pads, new 5000 miles ago because of TSB, are also 6+mm. I'd say that obviously shows some brake issue to the rear. But not necessarily connected to my complaint of "reapplying brake within a couple of seconds of an apply results in less brake with hard pedal."
And of course I asked if they did a full bleed after replacing the front calipers per TSB. Naturally the answer was yes. I don't know what they did when it was in back, but the initial issue may be cured. Rolling out of the lot, first brake apply I thought I would bite the steering wheel. I don't recall it ever having that much braking. Will have to follow up on uneven pad wear.
But I'm (___) about something else. Having stopped elsewhere on the way home, as I returned to my vehicle the low in the sky sun revealed fine scratch marks. The only carwash this vehicle has ever been through is a touchless and after a couple of tries I found that does not get clean. So I hand wash starting with a pressure washer to remove any grit that might be stuck. As part of their service, they hand wash. They are obviously sloppy because I washed just one week ago. It had already accumulated pollen on the exterior. The interior clearly demonstrates their bad technique. The glass was wiped with a cloth having dirty water leaving muddy water spots. That is, they used the same materials on my vehicle that they washed prior vehicles that were so dirty they looked like they traveled the back roads of Georgia. And that plastic door keypad? Those of you who wear eyeglasses and don't opt for the hardened plastic, you will best understand what it now looks like. For those that don't, you never ever use anything but proper cleaning solution and lens paper. Even a Kleenix tissue will scratch plastic.
#2946 of 2971 Re: I like the new 2013 MKS [brucelinc]
Jan 23, 2013 (9:10 am)
I agree on voice. It rarely misses, at least for phone. I don't use it for my music on HDD because it is beyond capacity of system. It flat tells me, "index is full" followed with "USB device has too many for voice commands." Hopefully this is something they will expand upon in the future since that HDD is not full at 500 GB and I have another 1 TB that I've added to my collection on the computer.
The quality of this sound system is good enough to appreciate very high bit rate or lossless music. Using lossless CODEC approximately cuts in half the storage space needed by a CDA.
#2947 of 2971 Re: I like the new 2013 MKS [brucelinc]
Jan 23, 2013 (9:53 am)
Why did you re-tune the car when with the added cost of retuning you would have been able to purchase a BMW 5 series vehicle? You also would have a vehicle that holds it resale very well. Here after 3 yrs, the BMW has about 72 % of its purchase price. The after market re-tuning on your Lincoln does nothing to add to the resale value of your car. Also how does this re-tuning affect the vehicle's warranty?
How happy could you be if you had to after market re-tune the vehicle? I would have done some research on the vehicle before buying to determine if the car's road manners where on par with my performance expectations.
#2948 of 2971 Re: I like the new 2013 MKS [unitedkingdom]
Jan 23, 2013 (10:25 am)
Hmmm....unitedkingdom, how can I say this politely? I will put it this way: I do not give a rat's ass about BMWs or resale value.
I only have a mild interest in warranties but I am fully aware that if my modification causes a mechanical problem, it is MY problem. That is a chance I am willing to take after doing considerable research, visiting with the tuner and chatting with hundreds of SHO owners who have done tuning much more aggressive than I have. Many of those SHO owners put their cars on the dragstrip on a regular basis and abuse them far beyond what I ever would.
As for satisfaction prior to tuning, the stock ecoboost MKS vastly exceeded my expectations. A 4400 pound car with AWD that would go from 0-60 in around 5 seconds and still deliver high 20s MPG on the highway was superior to what I expected. An aftermarket tune, admittedly with some risk, has exceeded my expectations even further. If I had not been extremely satisfied with the car in stock condition, I would have replaced the car - not spent money on it for a custom tune.
Thanks for your interest.
#2949 of 2971 Re: Bluetooth phone [e_net_rider]
Jan 24, 2013 (11:29 am)
The usual fix for this is a reboot of the phone, and if that doesn't fix it, reboot the car. (disconnect and reconnect the battery). I'm betting that will fix it completely.
#2950 of 2971 Re: Bluetooth phone [nvbanker]
Jan 25, 2013 (4:58 pm)
I was given a moronic response like this when I called Ford about something Bluetooth-related (please note that I think the response is moronic; I do not think nvbanker or any specific person at Ford is moronic).
It's an oxymoron to expect a luxury car owner to ever have to disconnect anything on their car themselves. Such acts are reserved for '83 Plymouth Horizon owners et. al.
Ford needs to ban such recommendations so they are not repeated in forums lime this. Hope I'm not alone in this opinion.
#2951 of 2971 Re: Bluetooth phone [hey_tinkerbell]
Jan 25, 2013 (5:28 pm)
The dealer where I purchased my '12 Mustang has a "clinic" every Thursday where they explain the sync and touch systems and make sure your phone works with your car. Not sure if this is just good service or a response to issues with the myfordtouch system. The salesman did mention how difficult it was to explain myfordtouch to an elderly customer.
#2952 of 2971 Re: design dummies [e_net_rider]
Jan 26, 2013 (6:28 am)
My mistake. After looking more closely at my vehicle, I see it has the seal at front door to contact front fender. It ovbiously does nothing to aid in stopping grime from getting into door cavities. And mine also has seals at side of hood, but they are much shorter than the ones on '13.
And I stopped by dealer to address the terrible clean up. The man I needed to talk to on some issues was not present. I returned that high priced Snap-on tool left in my vehicle. Since my car was thoroughly cleaned by self only a week earlier, it is rather discouraging that they used probably a cloth wet with dirty water to clean interior. One of the very tell tale places is the rear window. That brown water collected near the defroster strips and left a parallel row of dark spots at each wire. They then also topped off my low coolant with "water" from a dirty jug. Not real low, but at the low cold line when hot.
Next week I will have to go back to see what they say about other issues, especially the long near straight scratches in top coat on hood and trunk and probably everywhere else. The ones on the hood look like something was worked from the side of the vehicle that had grit on it and either someone with very long arms to move it in such long straight lines or a pole attached.
#2953 of 2971 Re: Bluetooth phone [hey_tinkerbell]
Jan 26, 2013 (9:00 pm)
A luxury car does not make a luxurious owner. As a light weight non professional mechanic with a '11 Lincoln MKS I look forward to performing basic steps in maintaining this car as I've done with the following:
95 T Bird; 94 Lincoln Town Car; 82 Town Car; 80 Town Car; 73 Ford Squire; 67 Ford Country Sedan; 66 Mustang GT (still own it) 60 Corvair; 57 Plymouth; 53 Chev Bel Air & 39 Chev Sedan.
Some of the best race car drivers were mechanics first.
Did I mention my V8 Sea Ray runabout?
#2954 of 2971 Why I bought the MKS
Jan 27, 2013 (8:07 pm)
I needed a road car that wouldn't wear me out on long trips. I shopped them all since I had an open budget (but I didn't want to get crazy). The MKS delivers more than advertised. Don't confuse issues. This is a "ride" not a sports car. I was surprised at the power and agility that it does have. Decent milage and a back massager. Take the time to learn the MySync. Live with it a while and you'll appreciate all it can do. Don't make false comparisons. This car does exactly what it was designed to do...and does it well.