Last post on Nov 25, 2013 at 2:27 PM
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Lincoln MKS, Sedan
#2942 of 2980 Re: I like the new 2013 MKS [euphonium]
Jan 23, 2013 (5:32 am)
It seems they were reserved for high end vehicles such as Town Car or Cadillac, full sized rear wheel drive. On those big vehicles, they may have been as much as two feet back from the front of bumper.
#2943 of 2980 Re: I like the new 2013 MKS [hey_tinkerbell]
Jan 23, 2013 (5:56 am)
Hey_tinkerbell, I am glad you like the MKS. If your experience is like mine, you will continue to like it more.
Regarding the voice commands, mine has never missed a word. Check out the manual. If the 2013s are like mine, you can "train" it to recognize your voice better. That might help - especially if you speak Texan. That is NOT an insult! One of my co-workers is from Lubbock and I love listening to her!
As for the A/C, I think you will find it more than sufficient when the weather gets really warm. The cooled seats are great too. I never use the automatic setting because I do not want the fan to come on full blast - but that is just me.
I know you did not get the ecoboost, but for those who did and would like even more power, there are tuners who prepare custom tunes that provide more turbo boost, advanced ignition timing and transmission recalibration. I recently purchased a tune from Livernois Motorsports and OMG! The difference in performance is incredible, the transmission shifts better and the engine is still quiet and refined. Fuel economy is even improved if I keep my foot out of it.
Keep enjoying your car, Tinker!
Jan 23, 2013 (6:06 am)
Was at dealer for service yesterday. New MKS in showroom, 50 miles. It was not cleaned up so it showed the places I complained about earlier as hiding places for crud, pollen, road dust, leaves, etc. Those places being around doors, trunk opening, and hood areas.
They made a feeble attempt at improving the sealing on the 2013, or at least since the 2010. One of the door seals, front doors, is extended so it is supposed to seal the gap between the door and front fender. Nothing to stop the issue on the bottom of door or other areas. Also, they added a rubber strip to contact the bottom edge of the hood each side. As stated elsewhere, the seals used seem very inadequate.
Looking under the hood, I saw the UAW pride at work. That seal mentioned was not in one of the retaining holes. And near the front a push-pin that appears to be used for retaining headlight assembly, it was not pushed. That center piece of push-pin sticking straight up.
And to that new hood with that extended center piece curved downward to meet bumper, say higher insurance. If you had the misfortune of a minor bump on the front taking out grill, now it is the grill and a new hood plus colateral damage. I sat in it long enough to find the storage hole with door front of center console. Another stupid design. The shape and design is that you would intuitively push near the lower edge center to open. And do the same to close. But that is apparently a release button, unlike the ones in the overhead that automatically toggle between unlock/open and lock/closed.
Part of quality would be attention to detail, in all areas. That false pride needs to be removed if it says "Lincoln".
Jan 23, 2013 (7:04 am)
Even though no appointment necessary and they were extremely busy, they serviced and checked my brake issue, posted here earlier, and was not duplicated on a recent visit. Maybe I should have insisted upon driving another one myself.
I need to do a bit of background work myself since VIN does not pop the TSB that took place three days prior to my build or any recall. Appearance of rear rotors wear pattern has been the same as front prior to performing TSB for the front. That is the pads have/had not been making contact with the outer 1/4" of the rotor. If you understand the principles of torque, braking in this example, the outer portion would yield the most torque/braking.
Results of inspection showed 3mm pad left rear, 6+mm right rear. The front pads, new 5000 miles ago because of TSB, are also 6+mm. I'd say that obviously shows some brake issue to the rear. But not necessarily connected to my complaint of "reapplying brake within a couple of seconds of an apply results in less brake with hard pedal."
And of course I asked if they did a full bleed after replacing the front calipers per TSB. Naturally the answer was yes. I don't know what they did when it was in back, but the initial issue may be cured. Rolling out of the lot, first brake apply I thought I would bite the steering wheel. I don't recall it ever having that much braking. Will have to follow up on uneven pad wear.
But I'm (___) about something else. Having stopped elsewhere on the way home, as I returned to my vehicle the low in the sky sun revealed fine scratch marks. The only carwash this vehicle has ever been through is a touchless and after a couple of tries I found that does not get clean. So I hand wash starting with a pressure washer to remove any grit that might be stuck. As part of their service, they hand wash. They are obviously sloppy because I washed just one week ago. It had already accumulated pollen on the exterior. The interior clearly demonstrates their bad technique. The glass was wiped with a cloth having dirty water leaving muddy water spots. That is, they used the same materials on my vehicle that they washed prior vehicles that were so dirty they looked like they traveled the back roads of Georgia. And that plastic door keypad? Those of you who wear eyeglasses and don't opt for the hardened plastic, you will best understand what it now looks like. For those that don't, you never ever use anything but proper cleaning solution and lens paper. Even a Kleenix tissue will scratch plastic.
#2946 of 2980 Re: I like the new 2013 MKS [brucelinc]
Jan 23, 2013 (8:10 am)
I agree on voice. It rarely misses, at least for phone. I don't use it for my music on HDD because it is beyond capacity of system. It flat tells me, "index is full" followed with "USB device has too many for voice commands." Hopefully this is something they will expand upon in the future since that HDD is not full at 500 GB and I have another 1 TB that I've added to my collection on the computer.
The quality of this sound system is good enough to appreciate very high bit rate or lossless music. Using lossless CODEC approximately cuts in half the storage space needed by a CDA.
#2947 of 2980 Re: I like the new 2013 MKS [brucelinc]
Jan 23, 2013 (8:53 am)
Why did you re-tune the car when with the added cost of retuning you would have been able to purchase a BMW 5 series vehicle? You also would have a vehicle that holds it resale very well. Here after 3 yrs, the BMW has about 72 % of its purchase price. The after market re-tuning on your Lincoln does nothing to add to the resale value of your car. Also how does this re-tuning affect the vehicle's warranty?
How happy could you be if you had to after market re-tune the vehicle? I would have done some research on the vehicle before buying to determine if the car's road manners where on par with my performance expectations.
#2948 of 2980 Re: I like the new 2013 MKS [unitedkingdom]
Jan 23, 2013 (9:25 am)
Hmmm....unitedkingdom, how can I say this politely? I will put it this way: I do not give a rat's ass about BMWs or resale value.
I only have a mild interest in warranties but I am fully aware that if my modification causes a mechanical problem, it is MY problem. That is a chance I am willing to take after doing considerable research, visiting with the tuner and chatting with hundreds of SHO owners who have done tuning much more aggressive than I have. Many of those SHO owners put their cars on the dragstrip on a regular basis and abuse them far beyond what I ever would.
As for satisfaction prior to tuning, the stock ecoboost MKS vastly exceeded my expectations. A 4400 pound car with AWD that would go from 0-60 in around 5 seconds and still deliver high 20s MPG on the highway was superior to what I expected. An aftermarket tune, admittedly with some risk, has exceeded my expectations even further. If I had not been extremely satisfied with the car in stock condition, I would have replaced the car - not spent money on it for a custom tune.
Thanks for your interest.
#2949 of 2980 Re: Bluetooth phone [e_net_rider]
Jan 24, 2013 (10:29 am)
The usual fix for this is a reboot of the phone, and if that doesn't fix it, reboot the car. (disconnect and reconnect the battery). I'm betting that will fix it completely.
#2950 of 2980 Re: Bluetooth phone [nvbanker]
Jan 25, 2013 (3:58 pm)
I was given a moronic response like this when I called Ford about something Bluetooth-related (please note that I think the response is moronic; I do not think nvbanker or any specific person at Ford is moronic).
It's an oxymoron to expect a luxury car owner to ever have to disconnect anything on their car themselves. Such acts are reserved for '83 Plymouth Horizon owners et. al.
Ford needs to ban such recommendations so they are not repeated in forums lime this. Hope I'm not alone in this opinion.
#2951 of 2980 Re: Bluetooth phone [hey_tinkerbell]
Jan 25, 2013 (4:28 pm)
The dealer where I purchased my '12 Mustang has a "clinic" every Thursday where they explain the sync and touch systems and make sure your phone works with your car. Not sure if this is just good service or a response to issues with the myfordtouch system. The salesman did mention how difficult it was to explain myfordtouch to an elderly customer.