Last post on Jun 11, 2013 at 11:23 AM
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Lincoln MKS, Sedan
#2938 of 2973 Re: I like the new 2013 MKS [euphonium]
Jan 21, 2013 (12:38 pm)
Euphonium - glad to hear you are getting some decent fuel economy. I have the base engine, not the Ecoboost, and given that Texas is largely flat and snow-free, I did not allow the salesperson to sell AWD to THIS "eskimo". A friend told me that the car should perform better once I get a few thousand miles on it. The worst gas mileage has been 16 - travelling from Houston to San Antonio on I-10 after Christmas into a strong headwind, with 4 people, fully loaded, and 3 bicycles strapped to the back. Hopefully all will improve from here.
I totally agree with you about the Lincoln having a more elegant interior than the Taurus, and don't understand when the car critics pan the MKS saying it's the same and the Taurus is $10K cheaper. My retort is that the Taurus is about the same price as the MKS once you option it similarly, but lacks the class, sophistication, and other amenities that come with owning a Lincoln. I'm not saying the Taurus is bad, but rather that I think it's ridiculous to say they're the same.
I'm not sure what cornering lights are...I have noticed that my MKS lights shift when turning. I had a Lincoln rental a few years back that would use hydraulics to close the trunk once you manually pulled it down to a certain point so that it wouldn't slam. I didn't really have much use for that...a button that would have automatically closed the trunk - I would have missed that, because it's really high. There's no place on the exterior to grab it firmly, and I'm scared I'm going to slam my wrist in there each time I use the loop inside to pull it down. Yes, auto-trunk-close would be a very nice feature indeed.
These are minor annoyances, some of which I expect I'll get used to over time, and some will grate on my nerves more each day.
Filing under "burying head in sand"...I hope this waterfall grille is here to stay. Not because I love it (I don't), but because I envy the timeless styling of Mercedes and BMW, masking the ability to gauge exactly how old your car is. Geez, for any Lincoln made in the last 5 years, I can tell you exactly what year it is just by catching a glimpse out of the corner of my eye.
#2939 of 2973 Re: Bluetooth phone [hey_tinkerbell]
Jan 22, 2013 (7:12 am)
Going to dealer today for service. The phone issue stopped.
#2940 of 2973 Re: I like the new 2013 MKS [hey_tinkerbell]
Jan 22, 2013 (7:33 am)
A/C system. Not sure about what system current MKS use. 11 Lacrosse used an updated expansion valve system. Maybe because it has been known for many years that with home systems an expansion valve would boost efficiency by about 0.5 SEER. A significant saving over life of system. Also eliminates most of the time needed for system pressures to stabilize. Almost from start it would blow very cold air and cool even a heat soaked vehicle quickly. Until poor trouble shooting (GM method) had them open the freon system instead of fix the electronic issue.
My MKS does not cool as quickly. It has bigger interior and maybe more air leaks.
#2941 of 2973 Re: I like the new 2013 MKS [hey_tinkerbell]
Jan 22, 2013 (2:15 pm)
I'm not sure what cornering lights are
When the headlights are on & the turn signal is used, the cornering lights illuminate just to the edge of the turn so one can miss the ditch & hit the driveway in the fog.
The lights are mounted in the lower leading edge of the front fenders and can be quite bright when changing to brighter bulbs.
#2942 of 2973 Re: I like the new 2013 MKS [euphonium]
Jan 23, 2013 (6:32 am)
It seems they were reserved for high end vehicles such as Town Car or Cadillac, full sized rear wheel drive. On those big vehicles, they may have been as much as two feet back from the front of bumper.
#2943 of 2973 Re: I like the new 2013 MKS [hey_tinkerbell]
Jan 23, 2013 (6:56 am)
Hey_tinkerbell, I am glad you like the MKS. If your experience is like mine, you will continue to like it more.
Regarding the voice commands, mine has never missed a word. Check out the manual. If the 2013s are like mine, you can "train" it to recognize your voice better. That might help - especially if you speak Texan. That is NOT an insult! One of my co-workers is from Lubbock and I love listening to her!
As for the A/C, I think you will find it more than sufficient when the weather gets really warm. The cooled seats are great too. I never use the automatic setting because I do not want the fan to come on full blast - but that is just me.
I know you did not get the ecoboost, but for those who did and would like even more power, there are tuners who prepare custom tunes that provide more turbo boost, advanced ignition timing and transmission recalibration. I recently purchased a tune from Livernois Motorsports and OMG! The difference in performance is incredible, the transmission shifts better and the engine is still quiet and refined. Fuel economy is even improved if I keep my foot out of it.
Keep enjoying your car, Tinker!
Jan 23, 2013 (7:06 am)
Was at dealer for service yesterday. New MKS in showroom, 50 miles. It was not cleaned up so it showed the places I complained about earlier as hiding places for crud, pollen, road dust, leaves, etc. Those places being around doors, trunk opening, and hood areas.
They made a feeble attempt at improving the sealing on the 2013, or at least since the 2010. One of the door seals, front doors, is extended so it is supposed to seal the gap between the door and front fender. Nothing to stop the issue on the bottom of door or other areas. Also, they added a rubber strip to contact the bottom edge of the hood each side. As stated elsewhere, the seals used seem very inadequate.
Looking under the hood, I saw the UAW pride at work. That seal mentioned was not in one of the retaining holes. And near the front a push-pin that appears to be used for retaining headlight assembly, it was not pushed. That center piece of push-pin sticking straight up.
And to that new hood with that extended center piece curved downward to meet bumper, say higher insurance. If you had the misfortune of a minor bump on the front taking out grill, now it is the grill and a new hood plus colateral damage. I sat in it long enough to find the storage hole with door front of center console. Another stupid design. The shape and design is that you would intuitively push near the lower edge center to open. And do the same to close. But that is apparently a release button, unlike the ones in the overhead that automatically toggle between unlock/open and lock/closed.
Part of quality would be attention to detail, in all areas. That false pride needs to be removed if it says "Lincoln".
Jan 23, 2013 (8:04 am)
Even though no appointment necessary and they were extremely busy, they serviced and checked my brake issue, posted here earlier, and was not duplicated on a recent visit. Maybe I should have insisted upon driving another one myself.
I need to do a bit of background work myself since VIN does not pop the TSB that took place three days prior to my build or any recall. Appearance of rear rotors wear pattern has been the same as front prior to performing TSB for the front. That is the pads have/had not been making contact with the outer 1/4" of the rotor. If you understand the principles of torque, braking in this example, the outer portion would yield the most torque/braking.
Results of inspection showed 3mm pad left rear, 6+mm right rear. The front pads, new 5000 miles ago because of TSB, are also 6+mm. I'd say that obviously shows some brake issue to the rear. But not necessarily connected to my complaint of "reapplying brake within a couple of seconds of an apply results in less brake with hard pedal."
And of course I asked if they did a full bleed after replacing the front calipers per TSB. Naturally the answer was yes. I don't know what they did when it was in back, but the initial issue may be cured. Rolling out of the lot, first brake apply I thought I would bite the steering wheel. I don't recall it ever having that much braking. Will have to follow up on uneven pad wear.
But I'm (___) about something else. Having stopped elsewhere on the way home, as I returned to my vehicle the low in the sky sun revealed fine scratch marks. The only carwash this vehicle has ever been through is a touchless and after a couple of tries I found that does not get clean. So I hand wash starting with a pressure washer to remove any grit that might be stuck. As part of their service, they hand wash. They are obviously sloppy because I washed just one week ago. It had already accumulated pollen on the exterior. The interior clearly demonstrates their bad technique. The glass was wiped with a cloth having dirty water leaving muddy water spots. That is, they used the same materials on my vehicle that they washed prior vehicles that were so dirty they looked like they traveled the back roads of Georgia. And that plastic door keypad? Those of you who wear eyeglasses and don't opt for the hardened plastic, you will best understand what it now looks like. For those that don't, you never ever use anything but proper cleaning solution and lens paper. Even a Kleenix tissue will scratch plastic.
#2946 of 2973 Re: I like the new 2013 MKS [brucelinc]
Jan 23, 2013 (9:10 am)
I agree on voice. It rarely misses, at least for phone. I don't use it for my music on HDD because it is beyond capacity of system. It flat tells me, "index is full" followed with "USB device has too many for voice commands." Hopefully this is something they will expand upon in the future since that HDD is not full at 500 GB and I have another 1 TB that I've added to my collection on the computer.
The quality of this sound system is good enough to appreciate very high bit rate or lossless music. Using lossless CODEC approximately cuts in half the storage space needed by a CDA.
#2947 of 2973 Re: I like the new 2013 MKS [brucelinc]
Jan 23, 2013 (9:53 am)
Why did you re-tune the car when with the added cost of retuning you would have been able to purchase a BMW 5 series vehicle? You also would have a vehicle that holds it resale very well. Here after 3 yrs, the BMW has about 72 % of its purchase price. The after market re-tuning on your Lincoln does nothing to add to the resale value of your car. Also how does this re-tuning affect the vehicle's warranty?
How happy could you be if you had to after market re-tune the vehicle? I would have done some research on the vehicle before buying to determine if the car's road manners where on par with my performance expectations.