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Replying to: robw64 (Oct 17, 2009 6:30 am) With this combination you get approx 72 more horses and 1-2 mpg better than the current MKS for 5-7 thousand dollars more (cause of the suspension and AWD thrown in with it), This may mark the end of the gasoline combustible engine as we have known it. The drive to make it more efficient may has reached its climax and this was only an attempt to try and capture those whom had nothing but more power on their minds to blow pass regular traffic drivers who would have in their minds for a second of “look at that thing go!” then back to the news or music on the radio. What I liked about the MKS is that it showed a balance, a balance of elegance, technology, power, and price that few could match. The price portion may have gone out the window some but that’s another story. Even though I do not have the Ecoboost engine, that 3.7 is no slouch either and I am hitting an average of 19-20mpg , which is not bad for an AWD. I am sure the Ecoboost will get better than what is on the sticker though, most do. I am sure Ford would not sell many vehicles if the mileage was less. So if they purposely put the numbers lower, great strategy. I am afraid as we move forward the MKS days may be numbered as the struggle continues to try and get more with less. They could just push the technology though for future models. I have heard many question the improvements. Some say, "Why do I need an indicator on my mirror of traffic? I turns my head quickly and look." Good for them, but for those who are on the phone, listening to the radio and doing their nails all at the same time, it might be a matter of life and death. It is a constant balance of features vs price. Could I really use this feature and handle the price or do I just start turning my head like they been telling me to do in driver safety films for years? Back to the engine department, I guess the question is, are they really have a struggle with the technology or are they just marketing in steps for in truth they can do a whole lot better 
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Replying to: robw64 (Oct 17, 2009 6:30 am) The link I have attached should take you to a Ford site where you can see the differences between the 2009 and 2010. Click on the product overview and there is also a PDF that outlines the differences. I have driven several 2009s and bought a 2010 mainly because I wanted the ecoboost. Yes, there is a very slight difference in noise levels - but that may be more because the ecoboost package is geared to run at much lower RPM. I have not driven a '10 with the 3.7 engine. As for road noise and wind noise, both are very good. Ford's site mentions additional sound deadening and structural enhancements in the '10 but you would probably need to drive an '09 and a '10 back to back to notice. I didn't get the park assist for the same reasons you have no interest in it. The little window in the mirror of the '10 is useless. If you adjust the mirrors properly, there is no blind spot, anyway. If you have no interest in the ecoboost package, you will probably love an '09 and the money you will save. Having said that, you might want to get the dealer's best price on a '10. There may not be as much difference as you think to have a year newer vehicle. |
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Replying to: datagen (Oct 17, 2009 7:49 am) Times and priorities change. Will the MKS in its current form be around 5 years from now? I doubt it. The same could be said for most of today's cars regardless of brand. Actually, the downward economy and resulting lower car sales has helped make the MKS viable for a longer period of time, IMO. If Ford had been flush with cash and sales were booming, they would have moved forward with a RWD platform that may have made today's MKS obsolete. That has been delayed (some say canceled) and the MKS is the best they have - and it is pretty darn good. If the Lincoln brand is to survive, they need a viable entry in the low 40 to low 50 thousand dollar price range. The MKS is there and it is competitive. It is the best Lincoln ever built and with ecoboost, I would argue that it is more competitive in its market than any Lincoln in the past 20 years or so. It trounces the STS, RL, M45, etc. not only in features but also in sales. If the Lincoln brand were not so tarnished, it would do even better in sales. I look for some of that tarnish to be wiped away over time. I would not be so quick to dismiss ecoboost as being just for the people after high performance. Word is that the demand has been much higher than anticipated. In addition to blazing acceleration when you want it, the ecoboost package does deliver excellent cruising fuel economy, smooth idle quality and stellar drivability even when not extracting maximum performance.
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" It is the best Lincoln ever built and with ecoboost, I would argue that it is more competitive in its market than any Lincoln in the past 20 years or so. It trounces the STS, RL, M45, etc. not only in features but also in sales." Spoken like a true Ford Employee...   
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Replying to: marsha7 (Oct 18, 2009 7:27 am) http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/reviews/healey/2008-07-10-lincoln-mks_N.htm
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Replying to: marsha7 (Oct 18, 2009 7:27 am) 
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Replying to: brucelinc (Oct 18, 2009 8:30 am) How 'bout them Lions, eh??? (Just joking...don't respond...I hate sports, esp football...it is just hard to live in Detroit for 10 years and NOT know what a Ford family member is doing...as tho we care... ...)
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Replying to: marsha7 (Oct 18, 2009 8:55 am) When I say "the best Lincoln in the past 20 years or so," the bar really isn't set very high, unfortunately. I think they have some pretty good stuff now and am really pulling for them. While I am not a Ford employee, my parents always had Fords and Mercurys and eventually a Town Car. I worked in the service department at a Ford dealership for about 6 years before my career took a different direction. I am pretty hard-headed blue oval loyal. Thankfully, that is much easier now than it was just a few years ago.
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