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Lincoln MKS, Sedan
#2693 of 2971 Re: Lincoln MKS vs. Cadillac CTS [akirby]
Jul 22, 2009 (8:53 am)
Yes, and the 2010 Ford Flex is available with the TwinForce engine, $7000 premium, or a standard V6, having equal FE in both. I'd bet you right now that 98% of those will go out the door without the TwinForce engine.
Probably even worse (better..??), closer to 100%, were the standard V6 to have DFI and only 3.0L to produce that same 270HP. The 2% gain would be made up by additional sales resulting from public recognition of the Flex's FE.
#2694 of 2971 Re: Lincoln MKS vs. Cadillac CTS [akirby]
Jul 22, 2009 (9:00 am)
But on the other hand putting a highly efficient and HIGH performance 4 cylinder engine in an Explorer(***) isn't beyond today's possibilities.
30MPG hwy and 250HP would be an easy "jump".
*** Leave the few Expeditions that are sold to those with enough money to pay for the FUEL.
#2695 of 2971 Re: Lincoln MKS vs. Cadillac CTS [akirby]
Jul 22, 2009 (9:12 am)
Based on what I have seen on various forums all over the Internet, post number 8 on the link that wwest sent appears to be quite accurate.
#2696 of 2971 Re: Lincoln MKS vs. Cadillac CTS [brucelinc]
Jul 22, 2009 (10:03 am)
Looks like post #8 was removed. In any event, further discourse with wwest will produce nothing of benefit to anyone. Let him have his tirade and just ignore it.
#2697 of 2971 Re: Lincoln MKS vs. Cadillac CTS [brucelinc]
Jul 22, 2009 (4:06 pm)
If expressed or stating concern about FE vs inordinate, even OUTRAGEOUS, levels of HP puts me in league with 98% of the world's population....,
Then so be it.
#2698 of 2971 MKS Ecoboost test drive
Aug 13, 2009 (1:45 pm)
The MKS I have on order has not arrived but the dealer got one in today and I took it for a spin.
The suspension tweaking and sound deadening on the 2010s is very apparent. The car is almost eerie quiet. Even with the 20 inch wheels, there is almost no tire thump or other noise. At 75 MPH, you could whisper to a back-seat passenger and they would hear you. I cannot imagine anyone complaining about the ride, either - unless they are looking for something really stiff. The MKS is velvety firm - you can feel the road but there is absolutely no hint of harshness. This really does feel like a luxury car should, IMO.
With a name like ECOboost, we know the MKS will be economical. I was more interested in the performance. I can assure you that it seems to be adequate. At no time during the test drive did I hold up traffic from behind. Given some time and patience, I think it would be capable of passing another car on a two-lane road.
While we have no real hills in Minneapolis, it seemed capable holding it's speed when going up a grade. If you live in the mountains or in San Francisco, you might want to see if it could handle that. My wife would get a bit cranky if I asked her to get out and push because the car lacked power but that shouldn't be necessary here in the Midwest.
I would not be enough of a hooligan to challenge a Prius to a drag-race. They have the advantage of 2 modes of power compared to only one for the MKS. However, based on my drive, it seems that the ECOboost MKS should be able to hold its own.
I am really looking forward to the arrival of mine!
#2699 of 2971 Re: MKS Ecoboost test drive [brucelinc]
Aug 14, 2009 (5:15 am)
I hope you were jesting when you stated you wouldn't want to drag race a Prius. the Prius is a hybrid economy car. It has very limited power. Your ECOBoost Lincoln would blow it away.
#2700 of 2971 Re: MKS Ecoboost test drive [bdyment]
Aug 14, 2009 (5:36 am)
You are kidding, right? With a name like ECOboost, I thought the MKS was the economy car. It only has an engine. The Prius has an engine AND an electric motor, doesn't it?
Anyway, I was worried that a 4400 pound car with a little 6 cylinder engine would be awfully slow. I travel between Minneapolis and Des Moines fairly often and the minimum speed is 40 MPH on the Interstate 35. I think the MKS will be capable of maintaining that. That is really all I care about.
#2701 of 2971 Re: MKS Ecoboost test drive [brucelinc]
Aug 14, 2009 (6:51 am)
The ECOBoost by Ford is a system that allows a V6 to have the power of a highly tuned V8 with the economy of a mid size V6. It has direct fuel injection and turbocharging. Approx. 365hp. The Prius is lucky if it makes 130 with the engine and electric motor both running. The ECO part of ECOBoost simply means better than a V8 The boost part means turbocharging.
You truly must be putting us on. You couldn't know this little about the car you are buying.
#2702 of 2971 Good grief
Aug 14, 2009 (7:11 am)
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