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Replying to: brucelinc (Jul 18, 2009 4:54 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Jul 19, 2009 8:59 am) |
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Jul 18, 2009 6:28 pm) I say this because even though there are beginnings to be a move towards more fuel-efficient vehicles, one thing that may be given up towards this quest is the speed and power that we all may be use too. I wonder is that such a sacrifice where with all that power and speed when there is no place to really use it legally. So in a sense it is like buying a 4-wheel drive vehicle and don’t 4-wheel drive. I understand that many want to feel the power even if it is a short amount of time, but I wonder is it worth the price for such few seconds or hundreds of a second’s difference between the advancement being introduced and what is currently on the streets. Many have asked the question is all this power and the need for speed really needed? I would say no it is not needed, but it is wanted for even I will admit the sensation feels good (have enough tickets to attest to that)  . Hopefully with the advancement of the electric engine (where acceleration and power is more efficient), we can have what we want, keep contributing towards the policeman's ball, and help the environment as well. 
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Replying to: datagen (Jul 19, 2009 2:54 pm) I understand that many want to feel the power even if it is a short amount of time, but I wonder is it worth the price for such few seconds or hundreds of a second’s difference between the advancement being introduced and what is currently on the streets. Many have asked the question is all this power and the need for speed really needed? The role of the manufacturer is to meet the needs of the consumer. If you want to change consumer preferences, talk to them, not the manufacturer. If no one bought big SUVs (like last summer), the manufactures either stop making them or go out of business (like this summer). If everyone wanted a tiny slow car that got 100 mpg, they would be available. It is the role of the OEMs to offer choices to consumers. Its up to the government to convince people they want something other than what they want. A gas tax would fix that, but they are too weak to try that. |
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Jul 19, 2009 3:14 pm) You do have a point about the tax. In Europe it has force the existence a great mass transit system that was so efficient, it was cheaper, easier and less stressful to use than drive your car. |
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Replying to: datagen (Jul 19, 2009 6:15 pm) |
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Replying to: datagen (Jul 19, 2009 6:15 pm) Yup, if it improved their bottom line, I am sure they would be motivated to make a change. Hence the hybrid ridiculousness of putting 2 complete drivetrains in each vehicle. I bet you if these was a process where auto companies could make a vehicle that use another fuel source that was cheaper than oil and in abundance, they would waste no time of flipping the bird to the oil companies and moving on with their plans, especially if they could control that other source. Yup, again I agree. However, right now we don't have this magic tablet. All they would have to do is to crank up the marketing machine, put the support to the supply infrastructure in high gear,... ...and wait 15 years for the infrastructure to be in-place Times a changing and there may be other agencies and organizations that needs to talk to the consumer other than the government. Again I agree, it seems to work for drug companies who want to send people to the doctor to ask for designer drugs to treat problems they might or might not have, but hey healthcare in this country is in great shape. |
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Replying to: datagen (Jul 19, 2009 6:15 pm) Abandoning a segment like large trucks and SUVs would be suicide right now. You can't convince someone who wants an Expedition or F250 to buy a 4 cylinder fusion or ranger.
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Replying to: akirby (Jul 20, 2009 5:28 am)
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Replying to: datagen (Jul 20, 2009 5:53 am) If a Ford customer wanted a smaller crossover or a nice midsized sedan or a nice small car - Ford had nothing. The Focus was basically a cheap car, the Taurus was a fleet queen and the Escape was too small. Ford lost a lot of customers simply because they didn't have the right vehicles. Adding the Fiesta and making the Focus a nicer vehicle with better options plus having a full line of crossovers will give Ford a good base from which to start building again. What you will see is the Expedition and Navigator sharing much more with the F150 - they won't have enough volume to dictate a one-off platform like before. And the explorer will be based on the D3 platform. These can still be highly profitable vehicles if built correctly even on lower volumes.
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