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Replying to: dmitrib (Jul 17, 2009 6:32 pm) The benefit is more power from a smaller engine. The idea is that smaller engines use less fuel but the direct injection and turbos give them the power of larger engines. From my gearhead perspective, the big benefit is massive torque at very low RPM. That allows the use of more economical gearing. The MKS ecoboost is rated 2 MPG better highway mileage than the non-ecoboost AWD MKS but it has 85 more HP and runs like a scalded ape.
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Replying to: brucelinc (Jul 18, 2009 5:03 am)
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Replying to: dmitrib (Jul 18, 2009 4:33 pm) I know you realize this already, but just to be sure we are all on the same thoughts, Cadillac is a GM car, and the MKS is a Lincoln (which is part of Ford) so on that level, no, they are not at all the same. If you mean is the GM direct injection engine as good as the Lincoln direct injection engine, then its worth noting that the MKS with EcoBoost uses turbo-charging as well. Using relatively small, efficient turbos gets rid of the lag people associate with the 70s and 80s turbo cars. In a straight line and on the highway, its a hoot to drive. The 3.6 liter normally aspirated (no turbo) in the CTS isn't as powerful, but the car is still very engaging to drive. I think Brucelinc was pretty spot on that if you enjoyed the Town Car, the MKS in a standard trim level would be a great match, but if you wanted something more sporty, I would look at the EcoBoost MKS and the CTS. Either way, you will probably want to drive them both, there are subtle differences that might affect the day-to-day life. I really like the navigation system in the MKS. I also really like the connectivity through SYNC for a cell phone and iPod. The iPod/phone interface in the Cadillac is a lot clunkier. I also don't like the temperature readout for the climate control for the Caddy is at my knee level. |
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Replying to: brucelinc (Jul 18, 2009 4:54 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Jul 19, 2009 8:59 am) |
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Jul 18, 2009 6:28 pm) I say this because even though there are beginnings to be a move towards more fuel-efficient vehicles, one thing that may be given up towards this quest is the speed and power that we all may be use too. I wonder is that such a sacrifice where with all that power and speed when there is no place to really use it legally. So in a sense it is like buying a 4-wheel drive vehicle and don’t 4-wheel drive. I understand that many want to feel the power even if it is a short amount of time, but I wonder is it worth the price for such few seconds or hundreds of a second’s difference between the advancement being introduced and what is currently on the streets. Many have asked the question is all this power and the need for speed really needed? I would say no it is not needed, but it is wanted for even I will admit the sensation feels good (have enough tickets to attest to that)  . Hopefully with the advancement of the electric engine (where acceleration and power is more efficient), we can have what we want, keep contributing towards the policeman's ball, and help the environment as well. 
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Replying to: datagen (Jul 19, 2009 2:54 pm) I understand that many want to feel the power even if it is a short amount of time, but I wonder is it worth the price for such few seconds or hundreds of a second’s difference between the advancement being introduced and what is currently on the streets. Many have asked the question is all this power and the need for speed really needed? The role of the manufacturer is to meet the needs of the consumer. If you want to change consumer preferences, talk to them, not the manufacturer. If no one bought big SUVs (like last summer), the manufactures either stop making them or go out of business (like this summer). If everyone wanted a tiny slow car that got 100 mpg, they would be available. It is the role of the OEMs to offer choices to consumers. Its up to the government to convince people they want something other than what they want. A gas tax would fix that, but they are too weak to try that. |
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Jul 19, 2009 3:14 pm) You do have a point about the tax. In Europe it has force the existence a great mass transit system that was so efficient, it was cheaper, easier and less stressful to use than drive your car. |
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Replying to: datagen (Jul 19, 2009 6:15 pm) |
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Replying to: datagen (Jul 19, 2009 6:15 pm) Yup, if it improved their bottom line, I am sure they would be motivated to make a change. Hence the hybrid ridiculousness of putting 2 complete drivetrains in each vehicle. I bet you if these was a process where auto companies could make a vehicle that use another fuel source that was cheaper than oil and in abundance, they would waste no time of flipping the bird to the oil companies and moving on with their plans, especially if they could control that other source. Yup, again I agree. However, right now we don't have this magic tablet. All they would have to do is to crank up the marketing machine, put the support to the supply infrastructure in high gear,... ...and wait 15 years for the infrastructure to be in-place Times a changing and there may be other agencies and organizations that needs to talk to the consumer other than the government. Again I agree, it seems to work for drug companies who want to send people to the doctor to ask for designer drugs to treat problems they might or might not have, but hey healthcare in this country is in great shape. |
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