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#2664 of 2971 Lincoln MKS vs. Cadillac CTS
Jul 16, 2009 (12:18 pm)
trying to decide what to buy , Linkoln MKS or Cadillac CTS , any advice ?
#2665 of 2971 Re: Lincoln MKS vs. Cadillac CTS [dmitrib]
Jul 16, 2009 (1:19 pm)
I would recommend you examine both carefully and take extensive test drives in both. A dealer should have no problem with you taking either of these cars home overnight or maybe even a weekend. It is also important to decide exactly what your priorities are, what you like, and what you couldn't live with.
I have driven both and I am buying an MKS. However, your priorities may be totally different than mine. If you like sharp, sporty handling, tightly controlled ride, and good comfort in a smaller package, you will probably prefer the CTS. If you lean more toward quieter, softer luxury, and lots of room front and rear, you may prefer the MKS. They are vastly different cars and are both excellent at what they do. They just do different things well!
What is your current ride? What 3 things are most important to you in a car?
#2666 of 2971 Re: Lincoln MKS vs. Cadillac CTS [brucelinc]
Jul 16, 2009 (7:09 pm)
till few month ago i had lincoln continental 2001. I liked that car . Had an accident , some drunk women hit me had on at night on the high speed , my car got totaled. I never had any bproblem with my lincon , Before i saw MKS , i thoght that my next car i'll buy cadilac CTS, it very nice looking , sporty car . But now i dont know because MKS beautifull too.
I'm 6 '2 ., so i need some room, comfort important , also dependable , quieter car.
I never heard that you can get a car for a day to try , is it true ?
#2667 of 2971 Re: Lincoln MKS vs. Cadillac CTS [dmitrib]
Jul 17, 2009 (4:39 am)
Brucelinc is correct. You can have a vehicle to test overnight, even weekend. I did it with my Zephyr, MKS, and MKZ. They will even deliver the car to your home once it arrives and is prep for you. He is also right about your own needs. If I recall correctly brucelinc was waiting for the ecoboost engine which I will be able to give you a direct report on at the end of the month. I will be test driving the new Taurus with the ecoboost and several other vehicles. So I plan on taking notes and letting all who are interested what I experienced. Brucelinc also hit on another point in the room area. If you plan on doing long distance traveling (300-800 miles), you may consider the MKS, City stuff the CTS can handle well. If you are looking at a sportier ride, then the CTS is your baby, but you may want to check out the New MKZ. It is very responsive and I suspect I should have a couple of speeding tickets by the end of August.
#2668 of 2971 Re: Lincoln MKS vs. Cadillac CTS [dmitrib]
Jul 17, 2009 (5:57 am)
Sorry to hear about the accident with your Continental. If you liked that car, my guess is that you would find the MKS would be an awesome replacement. Yes, as Datagen says, if you are a serious shopper, a good dealer will arrange for you to spend some quality time with a car that you are considering. I had an MKS overnight and was offered a weekend with it. I gathered all the information I needed by having it overnight and driving it on my regular commute to work.
The base MKS comes with 18" Goodyear Comfortred tires. They are very quiet and ride nicely but the MKS is much firmer than the old Continental - much better handling with more control. The Ultimate Package includes 19" Goodyear RSA tires. It is a bit firmer than the base car with the 18" tires and I found them to generate a bit more road noise. Optional are 20" Michelins. They look awesome but are a bit firmer than the 18s or 19s. Depending on how sensitive you are to ride/quiet, you might want to try different MKSs with the various tire/wheel combinations. All are very good - not harsh at all - but there are subtle differences.
Datagen, I can't wait to hear your thoughts on the Ecoboost and the Taurus. I expect to be behind the wheel of one in the next couple of weeks myself. We can compare notes.
#2669 of 2971 Re: Lincoln MKS vs. Cadillac CTS [brucelinc]
Jul 17, 2009 (7:32 pm)
what is ecoboost ?
#2670 of 2971 2010 MKS enhancements
Jul 18, 2009 (5:54 am)
Media Ford has some new information about suspension and structural enhancements for the 2010 MKS. Below is an excerpt from the site. Kudos to Ford for taking a 1 year old model and upgrading it already. While the 2009 was smooth and quiet, the 2010 should be even better and more competitive with the prestige nameplates.
For 2010, Lincoln MKS was been treated to a ground-up review of its structure in an effort to improve upon its already ouststanding noise, vibration and harshness (NVH) characteristics. Additional bracing and strategically placed sound-deadening materials have produced a new level of cabin isolation, providing MKS drivers with a sense of sanctuary.
The structural enhancements have been supplemented by suspension improvements designed to further improve NVH while also enhancing the driving experience when pushed hard. Mounts and bushings have been extensively revised, and spring/shock tuning and front suspension geometry has been reworked to give drivers exceptional handling capabilities in a full-size luxury vehicle.
In addition to the refinements found throughout the MKS line, EcoBoost models take the tuning one step further. Larger stabilizer bars front and rear provide flatter cornering characteristics, and an entirely new front subframe aids in further adjustments to the suspension geometry. Combined with dual roll restrictors, the EcoBoost MKS is equipped with handling dynamics perfectly matched to its powerful, responsive engine – without sacrificing the luxurious ride Lincoln owners demand.
#2671 of 2971 Re: Lincoln MKS vs. Cadillac CTS [dmitrib]
Jul 18, 2009 (6:03 am)
Ecoboost is Ford's name for their engines that feature direct injection and turbocharging. So far, the only ecoboost engine is the 3.5 V6 and will be available in the MKS, Taurus SHO, Flex, and MKT. Later, there will be 4 cylinder versions.
The benefit is more power from a smaller engine. The idea is that smaller engines use less fuel but the direct injection and turbos give them the power of larger engines. From my gearhead perspective, the big benefit is massive torque at very low RPM. That allows the use of more economical gearing. The MKS ecoboost is rated 2 MPG better highway mileage than the non-ecoboost AWD MKS but it has 85 more HP and runs like a scalded ape.
#2672 of 2971 Re: Lincoln MKS vs. Cadillac CTS [brucelinc]
Jul 18, 2009 (5:33 pm)
cadillac CTS 2009 also has direct injection model , is it the same?
#2673 of 2971 Re: Lincoln MKS vs. Cadillac CTS [dmitrib]
Jul 18, 2009 (7:28 pm)
cadillac CTS 2009 also has direct injection model , is it the same?
I know you realize this already, but just to be sure we are all on the same thoughts, Cadillac is a GM car, and the MKS is a Lincoln (which is part of Ford) so on that level, no, they are not at all the same.
If you mean is the GM direct injection engine as good as the Lincoln direct injection engine, then its worth noting that the MKS with EcoBoost uses turbo-charging as well. Using relatively small, efficient turbos gets rid of the lag people associate with the 70s and 80s turbo cars. In a straight line and on the highway, its a hoot to drive. The 3.6 liter normally aspirated (no turbo) in the CTS isn't as powerful, but the car is still very engaging to drive.
I think Brucelinc was pretty spot on that if you enjoyed the Town Car, the MKS in a standard trim level would be a great match, but if you wanted something more sporty, I would look at the EcoBoost MKS and the CTS. Either way, you will probably want to drive them both, there are subtle differences that might affect the day-to-day life.
I really like the navigation system in the MKS. I also really like the connectivity through SYNC for a cell phone and iPod. The iPod/phone interface in the Cadillac is a lot clunkier. I also don't like the temperature readout for the climate control for the Caddy is at my knee level.