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#2644 of 2770 Re: oil overfill [brucelinc] by alman08 Jun 29, 2009 (7:17 am)
Replying to: brucelinc (Jun 29, 2009 4:34 am) I ALWAYS have to tell them that it's NOT NECESSARY to top off the oil...
#2645 of 2770 Re: oil overfill [drew70301] by drew70301 Jul 01, 2009 (7:21 pm)
Replying to: drew70301 (Jun 28, 2009 4:08 pm) Problem resolved. After a few calls to the service desk where I am not sure they believed me, and after telling me that I needed to check the oil within 5 minutes after turning the engine off so as to distribute the oil, I called the salesman that sold me the car. He believed me without hesitation and on his initiative told me that they would send a driver to pick up the car and return it. I might have helped my case by telling him that I was no longer driving the car and that since I had no idea how much it was overfilled, that I was considering having it towed instead of driving it to the shop. Later that day, I got a call from the service manager who said he would personally come to the house to check the oil and decide if it was safe to drive.   The manager told me that it was a full quart overfilled. He told me that they had a problem with the bulk supply and that they had to break out the individual quarts. They made a mistake. I don't know if his determination of a full quart too much was from a measurement or from an estimate.   So, after 4 days and about 200 miles of driving with a quart too much oil, should I worry about damage down the road? I notice the service today is not listed on the owners website service history. I suppose I should ask them to make sure it is logged properly in the service history.   I have had a total of 4 oil changes at a dealer over the last 20 years and there has been a problem with each of them. I have not had good luck.   1. Once in the early 1990's, I noticed on the receipt that 10W40 oil was used, I asked why since that is not what the owner's manual called for. The answer was that they used 10W40 because it was hot in this part of the country.   2. In the late 1990's, I had a sable with the bigger engine option. On the receipt printout, I noticed that the volume of oil used was not correct for my engine. No big deal, I added more at home. I pointed it out to them but they didn't believe me. I didn't have the printout anymore since it was a few months down the road.   3. With my towncar in the mid 2000's, they cross treaded the oil pan plug. Of course, this was noticed at my next oil change at my regular place. I was standing right there chatting with him inspecting the underside of the car when I saw he was having trouble removing the plug. Of course, he had a suitable replacement in his drawer.   4. current oil overfill issue and they sure didn't believe me until they saw it for themselves.   Sort of unbelievable.   Lots of points for this salesman. I have bought 3 cars from him already. Replies to this message: datagen (Jul 01, 2009 8:06 pm) nvbanker (Jul 15, 2009 9:51 am)
#2646 of 2770 Re: oil overfill [drew70301] by datagen Jul 01, 2009 (8:06 pm)
Replying to: drew70301 (Jul 01, 2009 7:21 pm) Remember each dealership is their own world no matter what agreements or contracts that have been worked out with the manufacture. I have found one dealership that has service me well and will work on any vehicle I take to them (domestic or foreign). Even at this one I will insist on a visual inspection of the oil levels after changes are performed. There is just too much involved and you can’t be overly careful.
#2649 of 2770 Re: Ecoboost suspension tuning [hayjule] by gregg_vw Jul 06, 2009 (10:27 am)
Only if your LS is worth less than $4500 on trade in, and the MKS is 10 mpg more fuel efficient than your LS. Oh, and your LS must go to the crusher.
#2650 of 2770 Re: Ecoboost suspension tuning [hayjule] by akirby Jul 06, 2009 (10:41 am)
That's a pretty slick login name there George - took me a few hours to figure it out!
#2651 of 2770 Re: Ecoboost suspension tuning [hayjule] by datagen Jul 06, 2009 (10:42 am)
Good luck on that one. Would your LS make the clunker's list?
#2653 of 2770 Update by datagen Jul 06, 2009 (11:33 am)
Ok Everyone, I have hit the 10,000 mile marker and it is time for an update. It seems pretty broken in now. The ride is smothering, but I suspect it is not as smooth as those with the 19 and 18 inch rims. The engine seems quieter and the punch distance (gas pedal to floor distance) seems about the same. One thing I have noticed is that when I do punch it, the engine revs up and the whole car moves together, not the front end hauling ass like the engine wants to leave the body and the backend praying that it can keep up.   I do not have the blind spot indicators and sometimes I thought I could use them with the high shoulders and all. Due to this body style I have become a more cautious driver (safer, well that may be another story). My garage and driveway is a little tight so backing up in it sets all the sensors off so much that you think the car was going into cardiac arrest.   I just got my wife the new 2010 MKZ loaded. It may keep me off the couch a couple of month. It seems a little shorter and lighter than my Zephyr. That 3.5 does not play on this body. The stabilizers strain to keep an even keel when you gun this fella. Don't need an Ecoboost here. You will get enough tickets with the 3.5 alone. We took it down to Ohio for the holidays (wrong answer). The PoPo was everywhere and it was a strain keeping those horses under control.   The MKS would have been much better suited for that trip. The one big thing I did notice between the two is the nav system. You can see there have been some upgrades and the way it looks right now, I do not see those types of upgrades being available for previous models with the nav package. One feature on the MKZ is there is a keypad on the screen where you can punch your radio station numbers in. This is good because it cuts down the distance you take your eyes away from traffic. On the MKS, you have to look lower on the mid console. Who knows, I may be able to suggest the upgrade as a safety feature. You think they would buy that? Replies to this message: brucelinc (Jul 10, 2009 4:36 am) datagen (Jul 10, 2009 5:49 am)

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