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Re: Ecoboost suspension tuning [brucelinc] by gregg_vw
Jun 13, 2009 (10:13 pm)
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Replying to: brucelinc (Jun 13, 2009 12:45 pm)

Yes, I guess you will see how the ride is when you pick up your car. It is remarkable that some people will pay that much money for a car they have never driven--and especially one which is such a huge compromise in styling and execution for what used to be a brand to which to aspire. Most people will see the SHO as better looking and a better deal than the MKS.
 
But some people have to buy Lincoln, or it will go away. Enjoy your car. Me, I will wait for a Lincoln that people really notice when I drive by. The MKS is not it (it could be a model from any number of near-luxury nameplates...except it is a bit too tall, and the wheelbase is too short for the size of the car). Am hoping the MKT will come off better in the marketplace...at least the wheelbase is a bit more proportional to the size, though not by much.
 
It still amazes me that Ford can draw such large cars that look smaller and shorter than they are. Why? What is the point of that?
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Re: Ecoboost suspension tuning [gregg_vw] by ak103
Jun 14, 2009 (7:31 am)
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Jun 13, 2009 10:13 pm)

Since when is he buying a car he's never driven? He drove the standard MKS and before paying for the Ecoboost when it comes in, he'll test drive it and decide from there. Just because you order a car, doesn't mean you have to take it. All you're doing is filling out a buyer's order when you order a car, that's not a binding contract. Technically, you're also entitled to your deposit back. Dealers are generally not allowed to keep deposits for cars, no services have been rendered. And its not a wacky color combination, ordering a black MKS let's say with a Camel interior is not exactly what I would consider problem inventory.
 
And to the look of the car, that's personal preference. I happen to think the MKS is one of the best looking sedans in its relative segment at the moment. And honestly, there aren't too many sedans you can buy today that people really notice when you drive by. Especially if you live in the tri-state area and the like where high end vehicles are rather common.
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Re: Ecoboost suspension tuning [gregg_vw] by brucelinc
Jun 14, 2009 (8:47 am)
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Jun 13, 2009 10:13 pm)

Me, I will wait for a Lincoln that people really notice when I drive by.
 
That is a big difference between you and me. I don't have the need to be noticed.
 
I have no sympathy for people who take a short test drive, buy the car because it is pretty, and then complain about something that they should have noticed before purchase. Gregg, I am not suggesting you would do that but we all know some people do.
 
I doubt that very many people have done as much research on the MKS as I have. I have driven a number of 2009 MKSs. I had one for a weekend to evaluate. I have read about everything that has been written about them. The only thing that kept me from owning one was the knowledge that the twin-turbo was coming.
 
As has been pointed out, I am not obligated to take the car that I ordered. The order simply assures me that I will have the option of buying the car equipped exactly as I want. I have seen nothing, so far, that would stop me from accepting the car after an extensive examination and test drive of the particular car I ordered. In fact, based on the early reviews by the press, I am more excited than ever.
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Big cars that look small by displacedtexan
Jun 16, 2009 (11:36 am)
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I think the car is already noticeable, particularly the front end. From the rear it would be more noticeable if they can fix the taillights and give it more of the horizontal “Lincoln look”. Hopefully a style refresh will do that.
 
OTH, I also think Gregg is right in that the car does look smaller than it is. There’s something about the rear quarter view / C pillar treatment that just makes the car look stubby. The Lexus G series has the same thing going for it.
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Re: Big cars that look small [displacedtexan] by datagen
Jun 16, 2009 (5:09 pm)
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Replying to: displacedtexan (Jun 16, 2009 11:36 am)

Agreed, on the front. The back could use a change, but some whom I have talked with on this subject have told me that even though they wish the lights were more horizontal, the current looks makes it distinctive from other vehicle, especially when the vehicle has its turn signals on to make a turn. The chrome bands on the roof seem to compliment that distinctiveness as well from a rear view.
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Re: Big cars that look small [datagen] by brucelinc
Jun 16, 2009 (5:22 pm)
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Replying to: datagen (Jun 16, 2009 5:09 pm)

It looks shorter to my eyes than it really is, too. The deck seems very short in relationship with the roof. While the overall shape reminds me of a Buick Lucerne, the Buick looks a bit sleeker to me. The MKS is awfully tall for its wheelbase.
 
I agree the front is pretty striking. Overall, I think the car looks pretty upscale and somewhat distinctive - just not strikingly attractive! I have been driving an LS for 10 years. I got the first one my dealer sold in May, 1999. Anyone who noticed it (and few did) thought it was a Mitsubishi. I think the MKS makes a much stronger statement than the LS did.
 
By the way, Lincoln has updated their website with more information on the 2010 MKS and the "build and price" section is functional.
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window sticker by brucelinc
Jun 18, 2009 (5:45 am)
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My dealer emailed me the VIN of the car I ordered and I was able to pull up a PDF of the window sticker. There is a date on it of June 10. I don't know if that was the build date of the car or if it was just the date the VIN was issued. Does anyone know if the Chicago plant has even started building 2010s yet?
 
By the way, the window sticker shows EPA ratings of 17/25 so the ecoboost picked up 2 MPG over the 3.7 base AWD model. Time will tell if real world FE is better. With the 2.77 gearing, I would expect good highway mileage at cruise.
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oil overfill by drew70301
Jun 28, 2009 (4:08 pm)
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Just got back from the dealer for a service to include an oil change. On checking the oil level this weekend, I noticed it appears to be a bit overfilled. My question is, how careful does one have to be about this? Will it hurt anything? Should I stop driving the car until it is taken care of?
 
I certainly don't want to do long term damage to the engine. What sort of damage could this cause?
 
Now when I say overfilled, it is a bit difficult to tell exactly where the top of the oil is on the dipstick. However, the top hole (at the full mark on the dipstick) is definitely not empty. The oil definitely goes over this hole for at least 2 or 3 mm. It is just hard to say how much further up it goes since the oil is so new. I am checking on level ground first thing in the morning, before using the car for the day. I am removing the dipstick, wiping it before reinserting, then removing it for the read.
 
Thanks for any thoughts.
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Re: oil overfill [drew70301] by brucelinc
Jun 29, 2009 (4:34 am)
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Replying to: drew70301 (Jun 28, 2009 4:08 pm)

It shouldn't be above the top hole. My guess is that there is enough capacity in the pan than no real damage would result from such a small amount over. Too much oil and the crankshaft spinning can whip the oil and make it foamy. It doesn't sound like you are anywhere near that. The owners manual does warn about overfilling, though.
 
This happened to a friend of mine with his Taurus. It calls for 5.5 quarts and they put in 6. They drained some out and all is well. No more Jiffy-lube for him, though.
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Re: oil overfill [brucelinc] by alman08
Jun 29, 2009 (7:17 am)
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Replying to: brucelinc (Jun 29, 2009 4:34 am)

I ALWAYS have to tell them that it's NOT NECESSARY to top off the oil...

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