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Re: 2010 MKS Ecoboost pricing [gregg_vw]
by explorerx4
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May 21, 2009 (4:01 pm)
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Replying to: gregg_vw (May 20, 2009 11:24 am)
as a prior owner of gen 1, 2, and 3 of the SHO, your comments are not based in fact. you are welcome to have an opinion, just don't post like you have some real konwledge. 
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- #2598 of 2769
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Re: 2010 MKS Ecoboost pricing [explorerx4]
by cycler1
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May 22, 2009 (7:26 am)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (May 21, 2009 4:01 pm)
As a newbie here and one very interested in the MKS/ecoboost I'd appreciate if anyone knew the release date or when they might show up at dealers ? My local dealer is clueless.
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- #2599 of 2769
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Re: 2010 MKS Ecoboost pricing [brucelinc]
by emrnibbles1
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May 22, 2009 (11:42 am)
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Replying to: brucelinc (May 21, 2009 1:52 pm)
But in a 43k loaded Taurus sho and in a 50 k Lincoln. I think I would want better material for these prices than synthetic suede or wood scraps. A 365 hp car that weighs approx 3700-4000 lbs is not environmentally friendly. I would think that the reason for really using synthetic material for suede seats and wood cast offs for panel trim is cost and not because Ford really is environmentally concerned. If it is ,it's only concerned to a point;and that point is is that it is more cost saving using recycled materials over original materials. The car speaks for itself. I don't care about the Polar Bears either. I like large cars with engines that develop a ton of ponies.
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Re: interesting discussion going on here... [akirby]
by emrnibbles1
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May 22, 2009 (12:28 pm)
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Replying to: akirby (May 21, 2009 6:35 am)
Well since you are the Ford expert that has all of the connections with the company why don't you ask one of your connections how well is the 50 k Expedition selling? Ask why the Lighting pick up truck you know the performance version didn't sell. Ask about the reason for discontinuing the retro 37k TBird roadster? Ask how well the Flex is selling ? Also the Navigator? What is Ford trying to so with the TaurusSho.? Tell us? Get a hold of your connections and ask. OK.. Wait a minute, Chrysler uses a outdated rwd Mercedes platform for the 300 ,Challenger and Charger. If you do some mkt research you will find that the standard models of the above mentioned models are the models that sell the most and not the performance versions. Also all are available with V8 Hemi that doesn't have to depend on a couple of turbos to develop hp. Do you really want to compare a TaurusSho's outdated modified fwd Volvo platform with an outdated rwd Mercedes platform? Only a Ford employee would. Do you really believe that Ford is being environmentally friendly by producing a car that is about 3700-4000 Lbs with a 365 hp engine because it uses recycled materials for its interior. I would expect better material in a 42 k loaded Taurus Sho or 50 k Lincoln.
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Re: 2010 MKS Ecoboost pricing [cycler1]
by explorerx4
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May 22, 2009 (12:50 pm)
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Replying to: cycler1 (May 22, 2009 7:26 am)
a quick google search came up with 'summer 09'.
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- #2602 of 2769
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Re: Ok.... [speculator]
by emrnibbles1
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May 22, 2009 (1:18 pm)
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Replying to: speculator (May 20, 2009 8:27 pm)
I would say that a number of those on this sight are Ford employees or connected with the marketing of Ford products. Their financial well being depends on Ford doing well. So you have to understand where they are coming from. One poster wrote that he would be willing to pay 38 thousand for a souped up Taurus. He doesn't even think that 38 large is a steep price for a Ford. That should tell you something. I don't know your financial situation but I suspect that it is like mine. If Ford should go under you will have no financial problems, but many of those who depend on Ford don't have that ability. That is why you see all of the disagreement with your position. And sometimes rosy outlooks for Ford that may not be justified with present state of the economy. Ford has a rough time selling its present products but yet It introduces a 50 k base MKT and a 38k SHO Taurus. Go and figure.
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- #2603 of 2769
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Re: Ok.... [emrnibbles1]
by lilengineerboy
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May 22, 2009 (3:24 pm)
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Replying to: emrnibbles1 (May 22, 2009 1:18 pm)
I would say that a number of those on this sight are Ford employees or connected with the marketing of Ford products. Their financial well being depends on Ford doing well. So you have to understand where they are coming from. One poster wrote that he would be willing to pay 38 thousand for a souped up Taurus. He doesn't even think that 38 large is a steep price for a Ford. That should tell you something. I don't know your financial situation but I suspect that it is like mine
LOL. Okay so given your other vehicles (the AWD Bentley and the MBZ S550) I don't think you are in the market for a 30k Taurus or a 50k Lincoln anyway, so I don't see why you feel the need to judge the other posters. I don't see how your opinion is more or less valid than mine, without resorting to assumptions to motivation.
I don't understand what the big deal is I guess. If you don't like it, don't buy it. If you want to whine about not liking it, thats fine, but don't get upset if someone does like it.
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Re: 2010 MKS Ecoboost pricing [nvbanker]
by izaclown1
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May 22, 2009 (3:38 pm)
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Replying to: nvbanker (May 21, 2009 8:30 am)
My reply was to the Marauder not the MKS. I have not had that privilege yet. Right now I am satisfied with my 02 Cartier. That is all I can afford with a child getting ready to go to college in another year.
Sorry for the confusion. The reply did not pick up the quoted material.
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Re: Ok.... [emrnibbles1]
by akirby
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May 22, 2009 (5:35 pm)
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Replying to: emrnibbles1 (May 22, 2009 1:18 pm)
I am NOT a Ford employee. I've been posting on this site (not sight) for over 10 years. I am a Ford fan - always have been - and while I might be somewhat optimistic I am not afraid to point out when Ford makes a mistake. The Tbird and Marauder were mistakes. The Taurus is one of the best things Ford has done in years. The interior is the best that's ever been seen in a Taurus. It has AWD and 365 hp available. It even has massaging seats!
I'm guessing you've never actually seen or touched the "recycled wood and suede" that you say is cheap. And I'm willing to bet that it cost Ford a lot of R&D to figure out how to use those recycled materials and get them to look right. So your cost cutting theory is horse hockey. It would have been cheaper to use real wood and suede.
A RWD platform with better weight distribution would have been better. The center console could use some wood (recycled or not). Other than that, I can't see much room for improvement.
As for the price - for decades Ford tried to sell cheap cars and they were successful for awhile. But not today - not with the Koreans and the Chinese moving into the bottom end of the market. Ford has to move upmarket and make the best vehicles they can - and if that means an AWD 365 Hp Taurus cost $38K then so be it.
The Ford brand no longer carries the stigma of a few years ago. I think people are willing to pay for better materials, styling, performance and features. Are they going to sell 400K/yr? Of course not - those days are over anyway. But with all the platform sharing they don't have to sell that many to make money.
If you don't like it, don't buy it. My opinion is just as valid as your opinion and we'll both have to wait for the sales figures to see who is right.
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- #2606 of 2769
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Re: Ok.... [akirby]
by lilengineerboy
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May 22, 2009 (6:30 pm)
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Replying to: akirby (May 22, 2009 5:35 pm)
If you don't like it, don't buy it. My opinion is just as valid as your opinion
This is the best point I've read on the forums in the last week.
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