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Lincoln MKS, Sedan
#2594 of 2980 Re: 2010 MKS Ecoboost pricing [nvbanker]
May 21, 2009 (12:07 pm)
But that is the problem with Ford and Lincoln. The suede seats in the Taurus uses recycled plastic to produce the threads that produce the suede. It's not really suede it's really artificial suede. Ford could name it what ever it wants to but it doesn't change what the material is made of. The MKS has to depend on using scrap wood to produce its interior wooden trim. Ford admits that it uses cast-offs from furniture manufacturers for its wooden trim. Not good for a premium car. It's like pinching penneys as is the norm with Ford. If Ford couldn't use srap wood would it still offer wood as an option.
#2595 of 2980 Re: 2010 MKS Ecoboost pricing [emrnibbles1]
May 21, 2009 (1:18 pm)
It's not pinching pennies - it's called being environmentally responsible and in case you hadn't noticed - that's a big deal nowadays.
I can't believe you're turning a positive into such a negative.
#2596 of 2980 Re: 2010 MKS Ecoboost pricing [akirby]
May 21, 2009 (1:52 pm)
I am not a tree-hugger but I do believe in being responsible. Ford should be extremely proud of what they are doing. Their efforts are a huge positive in my book. From Media Ford:
Fordís award-winning soy-based foam seat cushions and backs, for example, will be on more than 1 million Ford, Lincoln and Mercury vehicles by the end of this year, leading to a total reduction in carbon dioxide emissions of more than 5 million pounds. Most recently, Ford announced that the all-new 2010 Ford Taurus SHO, Ford Fusion and Lincoln MKZ will feature sustainable interior materials such as seat fabrics made with varying degrees of post-industrial yarns, suede-like material created from plastic pop bottles, chromium-free leather and engineered ebony wood, all of which reduce waste, energy consumption and CO2 emissions.
To ensure these greener material measures resonate with customers, Ford designers are gaining a deeper understanding of the different levels of green consumerism. Statistics show that one in four adults in the U.S. are living more sustainable lifestyles; interested in companies that are more socially responsible and buying products that are healthier for people and the planet.
#2597 of 2980 Re: 2010 MKS Ecoboost pricing [gregg_vw]
May 21, 2009 (4:01 pm)
as a prior owner of gen 1, 2, and 3 of the SHO, your comments are not based in fact. you are welcome to have an opinion, just don't post like you have some real konwledge.
#2598 of 2980 Re: 2010 MKS Ecoboost pricing [explorerx4]
May 22, 2009 (7:26 am)
As a newbie here and one very interested in the MKS/ecoboost I'd appreciate if anyone knew the release date or when they might show up at dealers ? My local dealer is clueless.
#2599 of 2980 Re: 2010 MKS Ecoboost pricing [brucelinc]
May 22, 2009 (11:42 am)
But in a 43k loaded Taurus sho and in a 50 k Lincoln. I think I would want better material for these prices than synthetic suede or wood scraps. A 365 hp car that weighs approx 3700-4000 lbs is not environmentally friendly. I would think that the reason for really using synthetic material for suede seats and wood cast offs for panel trim is cost and not because Ford really is environmentally concerned. If it is ,it's only concerned to a point;and that point is is that it is more cost saving using recycled materials over original materials. The car speaks for itself. I don't care about the Polar Bears either. I like large cars with engines that develop a ton of ponies.
#2600 of 2980 Re: interesting discussion going on here... [akirby]
May 22, 2009 (12:28 pm)
Well since you are the Ford expert that has all of the connections with the company why don't you ask one of your connections how well is the 50 k Expedition selling? Ask why the Lighting pick up truck you know the performance version didn't sell. Ask about the reason for discontinuing the retro 37k TBird roadster? Ask how well the Flex is selling ? Also the Navigator? What is Ford trying to so with the TaurusSho.? Tell us? Get a hold of your connections and ask. OK.. Wait a minute, Chrysler uses a outdated rwd Mercedes platform for the 300 ,Challenger and Charger. If you do some mkt research you will find that the standard models of the above mentioned models are the models that sell the most and not the performance versions. Also all are available with V8 Hemi that doesn't have to depend on a couple of turbos to develop hp. Do you really want to compare a TaurusSho's outdated modified fwd Volvo platform with an outdated rwd Mercedes platform? Only a Ford employee would. Do you really believe that Ford is being environmentally friendly by producing a car that is about 3700-4000 Lbs with a 365 hp engine because it uses recycled materials for its interior. I would expect better material in a 42 k loaded Taurus Sho or 50 k Lincoln.
#2601 of 2980 Re: 2010 MKS Ecoboost pricing [cycler1]
May 22, 2009 (12:50 pm)
a quick google search came up with 'summer 09'.
#2602 of 2980 Re: Ok.... [speculator]
May 22, 2009 (1:18 pm)
I would say that a number of those on this sight are Ford employees or connected with the marketing of Ford products. Their financial well being depends on Ford doing well. So you have to understand where they are coming from. One poster wrote that he would be willing to pay 38 thousand for a souped up Taurus. He doesn't even think that 38 large is a steep price for a Ford. That should tell you something. I don't know your financial situation but I suspect that it is like mine. If Ford should go under you will have no financial problems, but many of those who depend on Ford don't have that ability. That is why you see all of the disagreement with your position. And sometimes rosy outlooks for Ford that may not be justified with present state of the economy. Ford has a rough time selling its present products but yet It introduces a 50 k base MKT and a 38k SHO Taurus. Go and figure.