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Replying to: speculator (May 20, 2009 10:17 am) You mean the grandma and grandpa Mercury with the Crown Vic's police pkg? I am not sure who the marketing genius behind that was, but an Impala SS it was not. Take an ancient chasis, add a moderately powerful engine (but not class leading in any area) and add police car suspension. When the Blues Brothers wanted the cop car it was because it was cheap. As far as the SHO, the folks that were in their 30s and 40s in the late 80s and early 90s would be about the age for the SHO now. Its more sophisticated and more powerful. I also don't know how many Ford expects to sell. I am not super worried about it, I think it will be fine. Also, what BMW can you get for 35k? A 3-series base with vinyl seats? Really?
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Replying to: speculator (May 20, 2009 6:42 pm) That's correct. If it was a Bimmer it would cost $60K (550i) or $80K (750i), not $38K. So you think Ford should have left out all the good stuff just so they could lower the price of the Taurus? Isn't that what got Ford into this mess to begin with? The Koreans have taken over the cheap end of the market. It's time to move Ford (and later Lincoln) upmarket and this is a great first step. Given the leaps in fuel economy and quality and vehicle design and features I think it will work. You disagree. Fine.
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (May 20, 2009 7:25 pm)
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Replying to: speculator (May 20, 2009 7:48 pm) How much is a loaded Expedition? |
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Replying to: akirby (May 20, 2009 7:27 pm)
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Replying to: speculator (May 20, 2009 8:02 pm) |
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (May 20, 2009 8:06 pm) |
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hmmm... about the depreciation discussion which someone said he could buy a year old Ecoboost MKS for $20k, I highly doubt it. Sure, domestic cars don't hold their value much, but that can be said for BMW and Mercedes. One can actually buy a year old high end BMW and Mercedes for $10k less. Now, with the discussion on BMW vs. Ford, this one is even more interesting. In my opinion, a BMW (5 series and 7 series) buyer is not going to consider anything from Ford Motor Co. I used the 5 series and 7 series BMW because a Taurus is a full size car and I would not want to compare it to the BMW 3 series. I have yet to see a production SHO in person so it's not fair to comment on the "recycled soda bottle" interior. But if the Flex's interior is any indication of what Ford is doing to improve material quality of the interior in their cars, then I think they're on the right track. Who's going to buy the SHO at that price? No one knows and let the sale figures speak in a year or so.
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Replying to: alman08 (May 20, 2009 8:58 pm)
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Replying to: speculator (May 20, 2009 8:27 pm) I apologize. I would consider myself a fanboy at this point but I too am critical of some of Ford's decisions as they affect me personally. I would love a Fusion Sport but instead I am looking at a Fusion S or SE 4 cylinder because those are supposedly available with a manual transmission. Is it worth Ford making a V6 manual for me and the 3 other people that want one? I certainly didn't mean to make you feel persecuted for your opinions, it just seems that you didn't really like any of the products you are selling. I think its easier to sell a product when you believe in it (hence Chrysler's issue). In California, most urban car dealers have pretty high turn-over. My buddy was the sales mngr at a Nissan store for a long time before going to Chevrolet, and then back to Nissan because he didn't feel like he could sell Chevys (not saying anything positive or negative about Nissans or Chevys, just his POV). Again, I didn't mean to make you feel persecuted or interrogated for your comments. I think at this point, Ford needs all the feedback it can get. It also seems like the SHO is just one trim line of one model - a halo vehicle, like the Fusion Hybrid but different segment. Do you think the regular Taurus is too pricey as well? |
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