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Re: I saw the 2010 [bigbuck16] by gregg_vw
Mar 20, 2009 (8:00 pm)
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Replying to: bigbuck16 (Mar 19, 2009 1:49 pm)

You for real thought that the MKS looked better than the 2010 Taurus? Truly, to each his or her own, but to say the MKS looks sexy as hell suggests you aren't being serious. It's an ok looking car, but sexy? And MKT small? Have you seen its dimensions?
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Re: I saw the 2010 [gregg_vw] by bigbuck16
Mar 21, 2009 (8:05 am)
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Mar 20, 2009 8:00 pm)

IMO I think the MKS is sexy,at the auto show I saw the EB MKS in silver(pic below) and it looked much better than the Taurus.I was saying the MKT looked shorter and lower than I thought it would.Maybe because it was in black it looked kind of small.Why the hell wouldn't I be serious,its my damn opinion.
 
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Re: I saw the 2010 [bigbuck16] by gregg_vw
Mar 22, 2009 (6:18 am)
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Replying to: bigbuck16 (Mar 21, 2009 8:05 am)

I don't know...lots of people use humor or sarcasm or irony in posts. It is sometimes hard to tell without inflection, body language, etc., where a person is coming from. Glad you like the MKS. Lincoln needs sales. To my eye, it remains anonymous looking, with the possible exception of the grill (which I do like better than the Taurus grill). Cheers.
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MKS vs. Taurus vs. others by brucelinc
Mar 26, 2009 (5:06 am)
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I went to the auto show yesterday and would like to share some opinions:
 
2010 Taurus: Yep, this is the one they should have built in 2005 instead of the 500. The lower roofline and greenhouse has a lot of Chrysler 300 look but overall you can see the influence of the Interceptor concept. While pretty striking, there are some fussy details that detract. The crease on the back fender looks like an afterthought and needs to be hammered smooth. The "C" pillar is a bit fussy and the break between the rear window and fixed portion of glass is too far forward. The rear end is perfect to my eye but the grill is a bit Camry-bland for my tastes. I couldn't get in the show car to examine the interior closely but I like the brows over the dash and the more gentle slope of the center stack. Unfortunately, it looks like the console top is the same flat black plastic used on the MKS.
 
MKZ: Looks better in person than in pictures. The grill and taillights are a huge improvement. I wish they could have reworked the greenhouse to lose the Fusion look, though. The interior more like the MKS but again, the console appears to use the cheap flat black plastic. Not having rear seat AC vents in a $35,000 sedan is unacceptable, IMO.
 
Fusion: Love it. The new grill and hood really look great in person - not as overwhelming as I expected. I wish the Taurus grill was more like this. The Fusion puts the Malibu to shame, IMO.
 
MKT: If you like big goofy station wagons, you will love this. You would never know it shares anything with the Flex.
 
MKS: No 2010s at the Minneapolis show. From a styling standpoint, my biggest objection to the MKS is the huge tall greenhouse and too-short rear deck. Not only is the trunk opening small but the overall proportions seem out of whack with such a short deck. Also, with such a huge greenhouse, why is their less rear seat leg room than a Taurus? There has been a lot of hype about the Bridge of Weir leather used on the seats. It is soft and supple but, OMG, it wrinkles badly. The interiors of the 3 MKSs at the show all looked 10 years old. The seat bottoms are too short, too. Lincoln, please do something about that cheap-assed console/centerstack!
 
Buick LaCrosse: A beautiful package marred by stupid details. The line going down the side that drops and then sweeps back up again might have been fine on a 1954 Roadmaster but it is tacky in 2010. Likewise the fake holes that are now stuck on top of the hood. If not for these details, I think the LaCrosse looks better than the Taurus.
 
Others: The 2010 Camaro is drop-dead beautiful - much better than in pictures. The side windows are very shallow giving the car a low muscular appearance. While it will not likely outsell the Mustang, I can see why GM lovers will be dancing in the streets over this one. In looks, this is a home run.
 
I don't think the Genesis looks any more upscale than a Honda Accord. Nice interior in the Genesis, though. Overall, I think the best looking mid priced sedans come from Audi. The Jag XF is right up there, too. On the lower end, the VW Passat CC is a real looker, too.
 
I am sure no one will disagree with any of my opinions.
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Re: MKS vs. Taurus vs. others [brucelinc] by akirby
Mar 26, 2009 (6:25 am)
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Replying to: brucelinc (Mar 26, 2009 5:06 am)

The 2010 Camaro is drop-dead beautiful - much better than in pictures. The side windows are very shallow giving the car a low muscular appearance. While it will not likely outsell the Mustang, I can see why GM lovers will be dancing in the streets over this one. In looks, this is a home run.
 
You must not have seen the interior.......
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Re: MKS vs. Taurus vs. others [brucelinc] by gregg_vw
Mar 26, 2009 (8:12 am)
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Replying to: brucelinc (Mar 26, 2009 5:06 am)

I agree with most of your assessments. Both the Taurus and LaCrosse are slightly marred by some details, but both are huge improvements. The Camaro is a home run with styling that makes the Mustang look old. However, the Mustang has the better interior. The CC is just beautiful. You are so right about the MKS. How they approved styling a car that big and long to look so short is beyond me. Don't agree on the Fusion though. While the 2010 is an improvement for sure, it in no way to my eye has the handsome proportions of the Malibu. Part of the problem is it has to soldier on with the previous greenhouse styling, which is more conservative than most of the mid-size competition. But overall, I like your eye for things.
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Re: MKS vs. Taurus vs. others [gregg_vw] by akirby
Mar 26, 2009 (8:23 am)
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Mar 26, 2009 8:12 am)

Remember the MKS styling was done pre-Mulally/Kuzak/Fields and the only thing they were able to change was the grille. I fully expect the next gen to show the same improvements that we saw in the new Taurus.
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Re: MKS vs. Taurus vs. others [akirby] by brucelinc
Mar 26, 2009 (8:35 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Mar 26, 2009 6:25 am)

You must not have seen the interior.......
 
I sat in it and it is pretty low rent. However, I will cut them some slack because they have an excellent platform, excellent engines, great exterior styling and they had to meet a fairly low price point to be competitive.
 
Gregg, the Malibu seems too narrow in relationship to its length. That is why I don't really like it. The tail lamps look odd to me, too. I do like the side view, though.
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Re: MKS vs. Taurus vs. others [brucelinc] by gregg_vw
Mar 26, 2009 (11:31 am)
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Replying to: brucelinc (Mar 26, 2009 8:35 am)

That's the Malibu view I like as well. I also like the split grill view. Chevy has done a great job of getting the same grill theme installed across the line. There's a family resemblance, and it is an attractive one.
 
Ford on the other hand introduces a 2010 Fusion and 2010 Taurus with completely different grills. Ford truck division also oddly gave the newest F150, Superduty, Escape (its unique grill not remotely attractive), Explorer, and Expedition all slightly different themes. At least within the Ford family Mercury knows how to do a grill theme on several disparate vehicles.
 
Lincoln has a recognizable grill again. Hope they can get it on the MKX and Nav soon. It is the one thing I like about the MKS looks (though the lower air intake looks like it was made for a different car).
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MKS photo. by carfanforever
Mar 26, 2009 (1:52 pm)
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Thanks for that photo of the MKS bigbuck. It looks really good there.

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