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Re: Panther Power!! [carfanforever] by gregg_vw
Mar 12, 2009 (11:43 am)
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Replying to: carfanforever (Mar 12, 2009 11:03 am)

Hey, I don't recall saying there was a huge difference. I presented the videos. The crash speeds are the same I think anyone would have to be impressed with how well the MKS did, The front wheels still turned afterward. The TC indeed did well for what is largely a decades old structure. But which of the two would I rather be in if such a headon crash occurred?
 
It really is apples and oranges. You say toMAYto and I say toMAHto. It does not hurt my feelings, pick my pocket or break my back if you prefer a BOF car, I just don't know of one that is as safe as some of the new models out there. I get that that is not your top priority when buying a car. Obviiously it was not my top priority when I bought the F150 I still have.
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Re: Panther Power!! [carfanforever] by akirby
Mar 12, 2009 (12:52 pm)
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Replying to: carfanforever (Mar 12, 2009 10:39 am)

I was not trying to convince you to stop liking whatever cars you do ,so you should not have done that to me and other Panther/BOF fans.
 
Where did I say that? There is a huge difference between liking something and saying one is technologically better than the other. I would never tell you that YOU shouldn't like the Panthers. Your love for the platform has blinded you to any shortcomings and you're the one who's personally offended that the mfrs have abandoned the technology.
 
Now, back to the MKS.......
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Re: Panther Power!! [gregg_vw] by carfanforever
Mar 12, 2009 (12:56 pm)
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Mar 12, 2009 11:43 am)

Well YOU are the one who said, "To UNDERSCORE the point, here are crash test videos of the TC and MKS". That made me think you were trying to say how much better the MKS/unibodies were.
 
Yes, the 30 year old BOF structure of the TC did well. That alone proves the soundness of the BOF way of building cars.
 
Listen, can we just get one thing straight please? This is not a matter of me getting upset/offended because someone else dislikes cars I like. If someone had said, "I don't like Town Cars/Panthers, they are not my cup of tea", I would have no problem with that and leave them be. What bothers me is people saying, either directly or indirectly, "I don't like Town Cars/Panthers! They are useless junk, built on stupid, unsafe, outdated BOF architecture, anybody who does like them is a backwards fool who needs to get with the times, accept a new, high tech unibody car, and I applaud Ford/big three for abandoning stupid, unsafe useless, BOF/Panther junk, which nobody wants anyway! Bravo Ford/big three!"
 
THAT is what bothers me.
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Re: Panther Power!! [akirby] by carfanforever
Mar 12, 2009 (1:01 pm)
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Replying to: akirby (Mar 12, 2009 12:52 pm)

Now you want to play mister innoccent, lol! Listen, people can read between the lines, and your smart, sarcastic little comments about Panthers/BOF and the people who like them speak for themselves. Your hatred for Panthers/BOF has blinded YOU to the fact that they are still good cars and that it is still a safe, viable way to build a car. And yes, I am offended that the manufacturers have abandoned the technology, and I am NOT going to apologize for feeling that way.
 
"Back to the MKS"? Sure, it is a nice car. I could see myself getting one one day and parking it next to one of my Panthers.
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Ohhhkaaaaay... by KarenS HOST
Mar 12, 2009 (1:06 pm)
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....now that we all know how everyone feels about BOF vs. unibody, that should be the end of the debate. Time to direct the comments strictly about about the MKS, thankewverymuch.
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by carfanforever
Mar 12, 2009 (1:14 pm)
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Here is a YT review/road test of the MKS. It looks great on the road/in motion.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlYidwFeDOk&NR=1
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Ecoboost drive by brucelinc
Mar 12, 2009 (1:31 pm)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwBuFqpDHRw
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Re: Panther Power!! [carfanforever] by gregg_vw
Mar 12, 2009 (3:23 pm)
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Replying to: carfanforever (Mar 12, 2009 12:56 pm)

carfanforever, I would really like to get along with you. I am trying to say nicely, without spite or malice, that you attribute thoughts to me that I did not mean to either say or imply. If I have offended you, I am sorry. That was never my intention. Still, if I did anyway, I apologize. I am here for enjoyment, not for name calling. I do not condone calling anyone a backwards fool or anything like that.
 
Now, back to the MKS...the more I look at its platform mate, the 2010 Taurus, the more it grows on me. I didn't like some of the details at first, but it is looking quite nice to my eye now (and I literally do have just one working eye!). I do think some people are going to cross-shop these two and not just find a Ford bargain, but a sharper looking car as well. Of course it is all personal preference.
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Re: Panther Power!! [gregg_vw] by akirby
Mar 12, 2009 (3:29 pm)
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Mar 12, 2009 3:23 pm)

I agree (for once). I'd have to seriously consider the Taurus over the MKS. Of course I'd rather have a Porsche Cayman S in Guard's Red with a 6 speed stick, but.....
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Re: Panther Power!! [gregg_vw] by brucelinc
Mar 12, 2009 (3:52 pm)
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Mar 12, 2009 3:23 pm)

I like the 2010 Taurus, too. I look forward to seeing one in person at the Minneapolis auto show later this month. Based on the pictures, the proportions look better to me than the MKS - less front overhang and what appears to be a flatter roof. I like the slope of the center stack, too.
 
If I were satisfied with the base V6, I would take a Taurus Limited over a base MKS. I would waaaay prefer the Taurus over an MKZ. I want the Ecoboost engine, though, and the only Taurus with that is the SHO. It has stiffer suspension and I don't want that. I don't care for the interior trim in the SHO, either.

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