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Re: More gimmicks instead of performance and handling! [emrnibbles1] by akirby
Jan 02, 2009 (7:08 am)
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Replying to: emrnibbles1 (Jan 01, 2009 7:10 pm)

That gimmick (and I don't disagree with that word) was dirt cheap because the hardware already existed - just required a little software. So no, the money could not have been spent elsewhere. And it's good PR.
 
When the 340 hp version appears go drive it and then tell us what's wrong with it. Or do you only like to do paper comparisons?
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Re: More gimmicks instead of performance and handling! [akirby] by emrnibbles1
Jan 02, 2009 (10:35 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Jan 02, 2009 7:08 am)

The MKS doesn't handle as well as my S550 4matic. I have already driven the awd version of the MKS. The MKS park assist system was developed in Chicago. It required more than a software update. What about the sensors that are used to steer the car while parking? What about the servos that operate the electric steering? Nevertheless, the money used on this gimmick could have been better spent to produce an intelligent suspension system that adjust to speed and driver inputs.
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Re: More gimmicks instead of performance and handling! [emrnibbles1] by akirby
Jan 02, 2009 (11:12 am)
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Replying to: emrnibbles1 (Jan 02, 2009 10:35 am)

What about the sensors that are used to steer the car while parking? What about the servos that operate the electric steering?
 
The sensors and electric steering are already there. All it required was additional software to use the sensors and operate the steering. And a button.
 
The base price for a S550 4matic is $92K. Why would you expect a car costing half as much to be just as good?
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Problem with Snow & Ice by mobrien99
Jan 07, 2009 (5:35 pm)
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Has anyone had this problem - I have the AWD version with 20" tires and when it snows, the car gets snow jammed in the front end to the point where the car rides so bad that you would think it is going to shake itself into oblivion. I have had the car for 3 weeks and this has already happened twice. It seems like there isn't enough clearance between the tires and the wheel wells?? Anyone seen this or has a comment. I wonder if 19" tires would help?
 
Thanks
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Re: Problem with Snow & Ice [mobrien99] by bobsokoler
Jan 08, 2009 (6:04 am)
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Replying to: mobrien99 (Jan 07, 2009 5:35 pm)

I've had my MKS (FWD and 19in tires) for 2 months and love it. No problem with snow here but we're only seen 1 or 2 inched of snow this winter. I have heard some small noises coming from the front end when breaking at a corner and hitting bumps. I'm also hearing slight brake squeal while stopping. Anyone else seeing these things. The LM dealership did a 3000 mile oil change and found no problems.
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Re: Problem with Snow & Ice [bobsokoler] by brucelinc
Jan 08, 2009 (10:15 am)
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Replying to: bobsokoler (Jan 08, 2009 6:04 am)

I have heard some small noises coming from the front end when breaking at a corner and hitting bumps.
 
A few 2008 Taurus owners have mentioned this and the fix is apparently to lube the strut bushings. Someone said their was a TSB on it but I can't confirm that. In any case, it would be a simple fix and it might be the same issue with your MKS. You could ask your dealer.
 
As for snow build-up, I imagine the tire/wheel combination is the same or very similar overall diameter regardless of whether one has the 19 or 20 inch wheels.
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Ecoboost MKS by brucelinc
Jan 15, 2009 (5:56 am)
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http://media.ford.com/press_kits.cfm?presskit_id=2024
 
This is the one I have been waiting for. The Ecoboost engine will finally make the MKS something special - at least from my perspective. Based on some of the pics I have seen on various sites, they have addressed the cheap looking console/center stack, too. There are also some new colors for 2010.
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Re: Ecoboost MKS [brucelinc] by gregg_vw
Jan 15, 2009 (7:39 am)
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Replying to: brucelinc (Jan 15, 2009 5:56 am)

You may want to look at the 2010 Taurus as well. It is the same architecture as the MKS and will offer much the same amenities, including the Ecoboost. There is less separating these two vehicles now than ever. What it really comes down to is which styling do you prefer? I think the 2010 Taurus will stand out in a crowd a bit more, at least first. Except for some degree the grill, the MKS blends in with the crowd more. However, if Taurus sales pick up, it will soon enough lose that standout quality.
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Re: Ecoboost MKS [gregg_vw] by savetheland
Jan 15, 2009 (5:28 pm)
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Jan 15, 2009 7:39 am)

With new Taurus they basically made Mercury Sable a.k.a Lincoln MKS a much more expensive - smart move. But what about real Lincoln?
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Re: Ecoboost MKS [savetheland] by gregg_vw
Jan 16, 2009 (9:33 am)
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Replying to: savetheland (Jan 15, 2009 5:28 pm)

What real Lincoln? LS is dead. TC is basically dead (and should have been euthanized years ago in its present form...it is like Lincoln's own Checker taxi). The MKX is an Edge with makeup. The MKZ would make a better Mercury than Lincoln. The MKT appears to be a Lincoln no one asked for. Maybe it will eventually replace the slow selling Navigator.
 
The MKS can hold its own with FWD/AWD near-luxury sedans...but now it is not even truly an upgraded Ford (as the 2010 Taurus is so good), but rather a Ford with new Lincoln styling. The C concept at the Detroit show demonstrates some forward thinking, but I have no idea if something so innovative would ever get approval. Still can't believe how they took the MKT concept which (love it or hate it) looked like nothing else on the road and turned it into an innocuous station wagon, with the new Lincoln grill on the front. Sort of like how they messed up the MKX from taking it from concept to Edge-with-a-Lincoln-esque-grill.
 
BTW, have you looked at the mileage of some of the 09 V8s? The 5.7 372 hp Dodge Challenger (a rather large and heavy car) already gets 16/25 mpg. Not too shabby, and again begs the question, what clear advantage really is there with a complicated twin turbo V6 over a normally aspirated, well-geared V8? Just asking...

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