Last post on Nov 25, 2013 at 2:27 PM
You are in the Lincoln MKS
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Lincoln MKS, Sedan
#2094 of 2980 Re: Lincoln perception problem [speculator]
Sep 15, 2008 (4:50 am)
The Jag platform, just like dew98, is expensive. It can't use any of Ford's corporate V8s - they don't fit, which requires expensive engines no larger than 4.2L which are also owned by Jag. Nothing would be shared with other Ford brands.
Where did you get 2015 for GRWD? I think it's 2012 worst case and more likely 3 years (2011).
The MKS cost far less than the LS - 90% less by some estimates due to platform sharing - and can therefore yield much needed profits at very low volumes.
#2095 of 2980 Re: Lincoln perception problem [akirby]
Sep 15, 2008 (5:21 am)
The MKS cost far less than the LS - 90% less by some estimates due to platform sharing - and can therefore yield much needed profits at very low volumes. True enough, as far as that goes. However, Ford has huge debt, is leveraged to the hilt, and may now be seeking government loans, after already mortgaging the whole farm. Ford needs some very high volumes with profit in order to climb out of this mess. At this time, with investment houses and insurance firms going under, it makes little sense for the government to bail out a string of other firms that are no longer competitive. That Japanese firms can invest in plants and manufacturing right here in this country, while Ford, GM and Chrylser are on the ropes, is quite telling. I'm afraid these MKS-type efforts (more or less described as "the best we can do right now") aren't going to save much of anything. I hope I am wrong.
#2096 of 2980 mks ride comlaints
Sep 15, 2008 (11:11 am)
The MKS has received some mixed reviews re: ride .I am considering this car along with the Genesis ,Maxima and new TL .
Can anyone tell me what their experience was in test driving this car? Thank you
#2097 of 2980 Re: mks ride comlaints [snags]
Sep 15, 2008 (11:46 am)
Scroll back a few months - there are several first drive reports already posted.
#2098 of 2980 Re: mks ride comlaints [snags]
Sep 15, 2008 (11:57 am)
I would urge you to try one for yourself. Different people have different preferences regarding ride - some prefer soft and cushy while others like firm and controlled. My guess is that you will find the ride quality quite comparable to the others that you mention.
Most who have criticized the MKS ride were expecting it to be soft and cushy - like a Lincoln Town Car, Cadillac DTS, or Buick Lucerne. It is quite a bit firmer than any of those. It is also a lot firmer than the Taurus upon which it is based.
Let us know what you think after you drive one.
Sep 15, 2008 (11:57 am)
I think that lincoln should give the MKS a 3.7 with a least 300 hp. I mean what was the purpose of boring out the 3.5 for it to only generate 10 more hp than the MKZ. I mean even the accord, camry, and altima have similar outputs. Even if its the "temporary flagship" it should have a a base engine that more powerful than its siblings especially since it weighs more too.
#2100 of 2980 Re: [dds010]
Sep 15, 2008 (12:09 pm)
What is it about "lack of time and engineering resources to implement direct injection" did you fail to understand?
Sep 15, 2008 (1:16 pm)
What part do you understand about a fully equipped $48,000 flagship car having almost the same power output as a accord (268 hp), and having less power than a maxima 273 to 290
#2102 of 2980 Re: Lincoln perception problem [speculator]
Sep 15, 2008 (1:17 pm)
Well, the marketing segment that the car is aimed at are the Donny and Marie Osmond fans. That is why it is a little bit sport sedan and a little bit boulevardier. Like being a little bit country and a little bit rock "n" roll. Lincoln will probably have an MKS Donnie and Marie Osmond edition. I want Lincoln and Ford to know right now that if they do , they owe me some royalties for the idea.
#2103 of 2980 Re: [dds010]
Sep 15, 2008 (1:58 pm)
Mercedes E350 - 268 hp, $53K. And it's a lot smaller. It's not a sport sedan. 300 would be better, but it's adequate for now until the EB version gets here.