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Replying to: gregg_vw (Jan 10, 2006 1:49 pm) Lincoln had a concept a few years back that picked up the early 60's Continental theme and I loved it. Then Chrysler comes to market with a similar slab-sided, high beltline, wide "C" pillar 300 and has a hit on their hands. Now the "ring" is out of the bell so it would be difficult for Lincoln to pick up their own heritage cues - Chrysler has already done it! (I think Lincoln could have done it more tastefully, though.) Having said all that, I am just glad to see Lincoln doing something! Since 1999, after the LS was introduced, Lincoln division has seemingly been brain-dead. The MKS shows that there is a glimmer of life left. I think the rear end view needs some tweaking but, overall, I am encouraged.
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Replying to: ANT14 (Jan 08, 2006 9:50 pm) |
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Replying to: brucelinc (Jan 11, 2006 5:54 am) My 2 cents: It does borrow from some existing designs, but what doesn't? (except for the CTS) That said, I'm not a fan of the shapes of the new Lexus LS/GS cars and this Lincoln does seem to have some of that. I do love the front end though, it says Lincoln, not Acura or anything else. Don't know where folks get that. But the rear end has got to go. It's practically identical to the last Olds Aurora, which was a big step DOWN in my book from the original Aurora. This car would do better to emulate the original's full-width tail lights than the obscure design they've got there now. Of course full-width lights probably add $8.00 to the cost of the car so that'll kill them. Lastly, what's the deal with showing us this concept in Jan of 2006 when unless I'm totally misinformed, the actual car is to be released later this year? I mean, there's no time to change anything on the actual vehicle is there? And if the real vehicle is pretty well locked in and this concept 'hints' at it and if history repeats, the real car will be dumbed down by the bean counters and will suffer in comparison to this concept so all Lincoln will have done is whet our appetites for caviar and then serve up a filet o' fish. IMHO of course. (Case in point - the Zephyr concept had a beautifully clean and appealing tail treatment. The real Zephyr rear end looks fat and cheap in comparison.) |
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I don't think I've commented yt about the new alphabet names, so I'll do it here and now and to be perfectly clear my opinion is: "BLECH" (could that be a future name?) ANd, BTW, are we supposed to say "Em Kay Ess" or "Mark Ess" I'd bet money that you'd get both answers from Lincoln marketing depending on who you asked. I think it is too STOOPID for words, or TLAs that they're doing this. Dumb. No reason for it. Lincoln marketing is clueless. I swear to all that's right with the world, I despise marketers (being an engineer) and yet I have no doubt that I could do a far better job marketing Lincoln than anyone currently in that position. I hope I've made myself clear. |
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I just read the auto extremists' take on the Lincoln offerings at the Detroit auto show and I gotta say, he's right on again. (I think he's been reading some of my posts on Edmunds:>) First off, there's a picture identified as the "Emm Kay Exx" or Aviator and it does not look like the one recently seen on the LS board. I mean specifically the front end has horizontal chrome grillework - similar to the Fusion yet what I've seen for the mkx was egg crate. Oh well, they're both ugly. The Auto-Ex guy hated it. Then there's some pictures of the Emm Kay Ess and the tail treatment looks different yet from what I saw at ANTs link. Not quite so Aurora-ish, but still not good. The Auto-Ex guy hated the Mark S too. Finally, he resurrected pictures of the Continental concept Lincoln showed in 2002 and I totally agree with him that it's 100% better than the emm kay ess. Maybe 200% better. I encourage anyone interested to go the auto extremeist site and check out the pix of the continental concept. Then we should all email Lincoln and ask just what the he** they are doing.
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Replying to: heyjewel (Jan 11, 2006 1:27 pm) |
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Replying to: heyjewel (Jan 11, 2006 1:27 pm) ANT can clear this up but my understanding was that the Mark S concept should reach production in 2007 as a 2008 model. If so, there would be time to tweak it a bit. Unfortunately, production versions seldom are an improvement over concepts. Your example of the Zephyr makes that point very well. As I said earlier, that 2002 Continental concept was awesome and would have been distinctly Lincoln. A huge opportunity was missed there. As for the names, I agree with you, but after driving a great car with no name (the LS) for 6 years, I guess I will just have to accept the hodgepodge of letters and if anyone asks what I drive, say "a Lincoln." |
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Replying to: heyjewel (Jan 11, 2006 1:27 pm) Well, I think AE looked at a couple of mine as well... Seriously, while I could easily see myself driving a six speed manual LS V8, the MKS leaves me cold. Derivative styling with sizzle emphasized over steak; I predict that it will end up being known as the DOA. |
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| It's a 2008 model, to be released in early 2007. And it's not much of a hint, rather, 90% of it, is being shown. Yes, certain things are still being tweaked before final version. | |
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