Lincoln MKS

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What is this discussion about? Lincoln MKS, Sedan

#1 of 2973 Lincoln MKS by ANT14

Jan 08, 2006 (10:49 pm)

I open this forum up for the Lincoln MKS "concept", just released by Ford at NAIAS 2006.
 
The full size luxury sport sedan Active All Wheel Drive featuring a 315HP 4.4L DOHC V8 based on the D3 architecture. This vehicle supposedly replaced the LS, and one of 2 sedans for Lincoln to debut in the next 2 years.

#2 of 2973 MKS by ANT14

Jan 08, 2006 (10:50 pm)

Ford Media
 
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#4 of 2973 Re: MKS pictures/info [navigator89] by scootertrash

Jan 09, 2006 (9:00 am)

Replying to: navigator89 (Jan 08, 2006 11:22 pm)
Looks like Infiniti M45 with Acura front and rear clips.
Nice wheels though.

#5 of 2973 Re: MKS pictures/info [scootertrash] by gregg_vw

Jan 09, 2006 (9:11 am)

Replying to: scootertrash (Jan 09, 2006 9:00 am)
Yes, it should sell much better than current Lincolns--but it is not Lincoln-esque. It is safe, derivative.
 
The hype with the introduction says, “People want refinement, rather than ostentation. Lincoln MKS is a luxury car that doesn’t need to shout – it captivates with a whisper.” You might as well say, "we wanted to play it safe and conservative, because we really aren't inspired yet." I think that's fine for Toyotas and Lexuses, which sell more on quality than style.
 
Lincoln needs to grab some attention. A little ostentation on a well-screwed together car would help a lot.

#6 of 2973 MKS - Everything the Five Hundred lacks, Price?? by fsmmcsi

Jan 09, 2006 (9:54 am)

It is a super Five Hundred, and seems to have addressed everything which kept me from buying a Five Hundred, but I'll only consider one if the price is a several thousand dollars more than a Five Hundred, not $15,000 or $20,000 more.

#7 of 2973 How does the new CTS add to the mix? by logic1

Jan 09, 2006 (10:01 am)

I wonder how the next generation CTS will play in the competition.
 
The current CTS can perform with the Lincoln, but fell short on interior quality and its polarizing exterior kept many away.
 
The MKS is going to be a larger car (on the outside anyway) than the LS. 194 inches to 203 inches may not seem like a lot to suburban types. In the city where I live those extra 9 inches may as well be a mile.
 
Plus, the dynamics of the D3 platform will be AWD with rear wheel bias, not pure RWD. The CTS will be RWD with possible AWD option.
 
If the GM can make the new CTS exterior more broadly acceptable without losing its character and follow through on interior quality, some LS fans may start looking at its US competitor over the MKS.
 
I will say that I really like the interior, front view and the wheels on the MKS prototype.

#8 of 2973 Re: How does the new CTS add to the mix? [logic1] by gregg_vw

Jan 09, 2006 (10:44 am)

Replying to: logic1 (Jan 09, 2006 10:01 am)
I doubt the MKS is aimed at the CTS. It's size indicates it is more an STS or DTS competitor. Lincoln needs a new LS/CTS sized sedan. Perhaps that will be the second one they are designing off the D3 architecture?

#9 of 2973 Re: How does the new CTS add to the mix? [gregg_vw] by logic1

Jan 09, 2006 (11:31 am)

Replying to: gregg_vw (Jan 09, 2006 10:44 am)
I hope so.
 
That is what I cannot figure out.
 
The Zephyr is definitely not in the same league the LS plays in. The MKS seems too big and heavy to truly carry the mantle.
 
Is Ford surrendering this part of the market, or does it have something new up its sleeve?

#10 of 2973 MKS by ANT14

Jan 09, 2006 (1:08 pm)

Well that's a loaded question. Originally the LS and CTS battled the "Entry luxury" segment, which ideally were direct competitors. Both entry sedans to luxury domestic makers, with European dynamics.
 
Ford repositioned the LS above the Zephyr, so if you wish to call the Zephyr the direct competitor to CTS, it actually is in segment and price. Although it's different markets/demographics which each is targeting. So you may do with that information as you wish.
 
The MKS in ideology is really the replacement to the LS, BUT it's mission is a bit different, and placed above the Zephyr in segment and pricing.
 
The MKS will very much be a great handler, don't let the AWD or exterior size fool you. And the even larger sedan, has yet to be released...
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