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Buying American Cars What Does It Mean?

7263 messages,  Last post on May 27, 2009 at 4:31 AM

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With parts coming from everywhere, does "Buying American" have much meaning anymore? Is quality and price the bottom line?


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Re: Buy American. [m1miata] by rockylee
Apr 30, 2009 (11:45 am)
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Replying to: m1miata (Apr 16, 2009 10:49 pm)

Do you still have the Accord?
 
-Rocky
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GMC by m1miata
May 12, 2009 (8:33 pm)
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So, first is was GM as Government Motors, and now it will be GMC for General Motors of China. Oh well, we shall see. So sad, but other than a few bright spots, like the CTS, and Corvettes, it has been looking downhill, IMHO, for a long-long time. Slippery slope began when - was it post 1973 perhaps? Guess there were a couple to three other cars, perhaps even the Camaro since '73 which were OK. Oh yea, the last Eldorado looked pretty cool -- a bit large, but then again Caddy thinks large. Guess I just liked the older GM with say the '72 Cutlass as an example of the last great ones.
 
And Hello to Rocky -- sorry to see your GM go generally down. Oh well, the USA still has FORD.
-Loren
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Is this some sort of dream or did the.. by m1miata
May 21, 2009 (10:10 am)
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UAW, General Motors Reach Deal on Contract Concessions
 
Yes, those are the headlines! How then, if not in bankruptcy, do you cancel dealership contracts? And the pensions to be fully paid? Rough road ahead, but amazing headlines, if the UAW did make MEANINGFUL concessions. Wow - what times these are!
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Re: Is this some sort of dream or did the.. [m1miata] by mikefm58
May 21, 2009 (10:37 am)
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Replying to: m1miata (May 21, 2009 10:10 am)

How then, if not in bankruptcy, do you cancel dealership contracts?
 
I believe the dealership contracts are 5 year deals that are up in October of this year.
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Re: Is this some sort of dream or did the.. [m1miata] by gagrice
May 21, 2009 (12:50 pm)
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Replying to: m1miata (May 21, 2009 10:10 am)

How then, if not in bankruptcy, do you cancel dealership contracts?
 
I would say all contracts are in question during BK. It seems the judge should decide. According to some owners they were told their contract was canceled June 9th. I would think that should be the court's duty to decide who gets screwed and who gets paid. If I was left with $3million in inventory and a mortgage that was directly tied to Chrysler, I would not go down without a fight. I think the best and fastest way is both GM and C file for liquidation and let the law decide who gets what.
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GM by m1miata
May 22, 2009 (9:02 pm)
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So I guess GM is indeed still going into bankruptcy.
 
Neat looking New Camaro, if it had thinner A pillars, more glass area, lower door window sills, I think I would go for it -- sadly it doesn't & it is a tad large too. Trim a couple-three inches off the width, and half a foot off the length, and I would consider buying one. Maybe a Mustang with a GM 3.6 V6 and transmission would be better Looks like Hyundai Genesis Coupe has the right stuff. Ford has put off the new engine and tranny for too long. And the gas mileage = not so good. Get with it, the car is good in other ways, and looks great.
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Re: GM [m1miata] by circlew
May 23, 2009 (5:25 am)
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Replying to: m1miata (May 22, 2009 9:02 pm)

IMHO, Hyundai will threaten ToyHon someday. I would still go for the Camaro after the new GM is sorted out but need to shop it against Hyundai's coupe. The CTS is still a possibility as I am waiting for the coupe which I think is the best design Caddy has put into production. Soon the 3-series Caddy will be out so we can see if they can produce a world-class sports sedan in that category.
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: GM [m1miata] by cooterbfd
May 23, 2009 (5:48 am)
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Replying to: m1miata (May 22, 2009 9:02 pm)

".....Trim a couple-three inches off the width, and half a foot off the length, and I would consider buying one."
 
The length I can see, but the width may compromise handling
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Re: GM [m1miata] by iwant12
May 23, 2009 (8:01 am)
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Replying to: m1miata (May 22, 2009 9:02 pm)

Totally agree with the A pillars. Why the heck do they have to make them so wide? Same with the HHR. I saw one (Camaro) on the interstate the other day (yellow with a black hood) and it was very nice.
 
Have a great Memorial Day weekend everybody.
 
Regards,
Dale
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Re: GM [iwant12] by anythngbutgm
May 27, 2009 (4:31 am)
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Replying to: iwant12 (May 23, 2009 8:01 am)

Structural stiffness. The Camaro is a fat pig so the hefty pillars keep the body from folding over itself like a wet noodle. But give it a few years and it'll still creak and groan like Camaros of yore. Wonder if there will be crash testing of this new retro beastie?

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