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Automotive News & Views Buying American Cars What Does It Mean?
7263 messages, Last post on May 27, 2009 at 4:31 AM
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With parts coming from everywhere, does "Buying American" have much meaning anymore? Is quality and price the bottom line?
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Replying to: m1miata (Apr 16, 2009 10:49 pm) Did they still use that "Lightning Rod" shifter, or whatever it was called, that late on? I know some of the earlier cars used it, like around 1983-84, but I thought they dropped it because it confused too many people? I wouldn't mind having one of those RWD 80's 442's today, or even just a regular Cutlass Supreme with the 307. I always liked them better than the Monte Carlo SS. And even though the Grand National is faster, I just prefer the relative simplicity and rugged durability of the 307 to the more complex turbo V-6.
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Replying to: lemko (Apr 16, 2009 10:39 am) One thing I find amusing about the RWD Delta 88, is that my 1985 Consumer Guide actually ripped it apart! They also tested a 1985 LeSabre coupe with the 307, a Caprice sedan with the 262 V-6, and a Parisienne sedan with the 305. Those three tested out better, and they gave a "Best Buy" rating to the Chevy and Pontiac. The main area where they ripped the Delta was stuff like build quality, fit/finish, paint quality, and interior workmanship. They did say it could have just been a bad sample, but was still inexcusable considering Olds has only been building this car for eight years! I wonder if the quality of the Delta 88 might have gone downhill some in the final year, as they rushed to finish building them and get them out the door, so they could shut down and re-tool for the downsized '86 model? That was also the LeSabre's last year, but the LeSabre wasn't nearly as strong of a seller as the Delta. So maybe with the high demand of the Delta, they were just throwing them together too quickly? |
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Replying to: andre1969 (Apr 17, 2009 4:32 am) Yeah, those were very cool cars back then. |
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Replying to: lemko (Apr 16, 2009 10:50 am) |
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Replying to: m1miata (Apr 16, 2009 10:49 pm) -Rocky |
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Replying to: m1miata (Apr 16, 2009 10:49 pm) -Rocky |
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So, first is was GM as Government Motors, and now it will be GMC for General Motors of China. Oh well, we shall see. So sad, but other than a few bright spots, like the CTS, and Corvettes, it has been looking downhill, IMHO, for a long-long time. Slippery slope began when - was it post 1973 perhaps? Guess there were a couple to three other cars, perhaps even the Camaro since '73 which were OK. Oh yea, the last Eldorado looked pretty cool -- a bit large, but then again Caddy thinks large. Guess I just liked the older GM with say the '72 Cutlass as an example of the last great ones. And Hello to Rocky -- sorry to see your GM go generally down. Oh well, the USA still has FORD. -Loren |
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UAW, General Motors Reach Deal on Contract Concessions Yes, those are the headlines! How then, if not in bankruptcy, do you cancel dealership contracts? And the pensions to be fully paid? Rough road ahead, but amazing headlines, if the UAW did make MEANINGFUL concessions. Wow - what times these are!
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Replying to: m1miata (May 21, 2009 10:10 am) I believe the dealership contracts are 5 year deals that are up in October of this year. |
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Replying to: m1miata (May 21, 2009 10:10 am) I would say all contracts are in question during BK. It seems the judge should decide. According to some owners they were told their contract was canceled June 9th. I would think that should be the court's duty to decide who gets screwed and who gets paid. If I was left with $3million in inventory and a mortgage that was directly tied to Chrysler, I would not go down without a fight. I think the best and fastest way is both GM and C file for liquidation and let the law decide who gets what. |
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