Buying American Cars What Does It Mean?

7263 messages, Last post on May 27, 2009 at 4:31 AM

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With parts coming from everywhere, does "Buying American" have much meaning anymore? Is quality and price the bottom line?

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#7164 of 7263 Re: the end [gagrice] by lilengineerboy Mar 08, 2009 (8:21 pm)
Replying to: gagrice (Mar 08, 2009 6:21 pm) Actually there is a move in Hawaii to send people back to where they came from with a one way ticket. Seems their welfare roles are bursting at the seams. Like states that have given criminals one way tickets back to the state they came from. We should send all unemployed workers to their state or country of origin. The place they were born should foot the bill for their welfare. that might set a precedent for California to do the same with everyone who doesn't have the appropriate visa or citizenship status. I am not sure if that is a good thing or not, just noting the issue.
#7165 of 7263 Re: the end [gagrice] by dieselone Mar 09, 2009 (5:00 am)
Replying to: gagrice (Mar 08, 2009 6:21 pm) Up to 40 percent of Hawaii's homeless are estimated to be from other places. Well, I guess if I were to become homeless, Hawaii wouldn't be a bad place to sleep on the streets. Replies to this message: grbeck (Mar 09, 2009 6:45 am) gagrice (Mar 09, 2009 6:51 am) fintail (Mar 09, 2009 7:38 am) cooterbfd (Mar 09, 2009 5:46 pm) and 18 more... bpizzuti (Mar 09, 2009 7:14 am)
#7166 of 7263 Re: the end [dieselone] by grbeck Mar 09, 2009 (6:45 am)
Replying to: dieselone (Mar 09, 2009 5:00 am) Those must be the well-to-do homeless, as plane tickets to Hawaii aren't cheap. As for the comment about shipping the unemployed to Sen. Shelby's home state - last time I checked, he isn't the reason these people are facing unemployment. Unless Congressional Republicans have been secretly running GM these past 30 or so years. It's amazing that, as these companies face bankruptcy, their fate is still everyone elses' fault. So far, the list of people and organizations to blame for the domestic car makers' plight now includes...Consumer Reports, Car and Driver, The New York Times, environmentalists, Toyota, people who buy foreign vehicles, the Chinese, Wal-Mart and its greeters, and now Congressional Republicans. Strangely, everyone but management and the UAW. The list just keeps expanding...I wonder when posters on Edmunds.com who oppose the bailout will be added to the list? Will we then be required to house an unemployed auto worker? Replies to this message: gagrice (Mar 09, 2009 6:51 am) fintail (Mar 09, 2009 7:38 am) cooterbfd (Mar 09, 2009 5:46 pm) gagrice (Mar 09, 2009 6:13 pm) and 17 more... bpizzuti (Mar 09, 2009 7:14 am)
#7167 of 7263 Re: the end [grbeck] by gagrice Mar 09, 2009 (6:51 am)
Replying to: grbeck (Mar 09, 2009 6:45 am) The truth is that Shelby is doing his job in representing the people of Alabama. Why should the auto workers in his state pay to prop up the losers in Michigan. Makes no sense at all. Helping the weak survive only breeds a Weak Nation. Replies to this message: fintail (Mar 09, 2009 7:38 am) cooterbfd (Mar 09, 2009 5:46 pm) gagrice (Mar 09, 2009 6:13 pm) cooterbfd (Mar 11, 2009 4:37 pm) and 16 more...
#7168 of 7263 Re: the end [grbeck] by bpizzuti Mar 09, 2009 (7:14 am)
Replying to: grbeck (Mar 09, 2009 6:45 am) Strangely, everyone but management and the UAW. Management has MBAs. In the fine print on the degree, it says (among other legalese indemnifying them against anything) "Past performance is no guarantee of future success."
#7169 of 7263 Re: the end [gagrice] by fintail Mar 09, 2009 (7:38 am)
Replying to: gagrice (Mar 09, 2009 6:51 am) " Helping the weak survive only breeds a Weak Nation. " If that's true, the US needs to reform its foreign aid, especially to places that are not economically self-sufficient, such as Israel. Billions (or period equivalents) pissed away each year for more than half a century, with nothing given in return but needless wars and globalization. Think of what that money could do at home.
#7170 of 7263 by ingvar Mar 09, 2009 (10:12 am)
Looks like it is the end of Chrysler and GM as we know it today. I rented Chrysler Compass 2 days ago, for minor off road ride....big mistake!!! Horrible engine, sluggish trans, weak breaks. I don't understand who will buy this ugly and useless car.
#7171 of 7263 Re: the end [gagrice] by cooterbfd Mar 09, 2009 (5:46 pm)
Replying to: gagrice (Mar 09, 2009 6:51 am) Why not?? Thanks to programs like Section 8, HIS constituents have been coming up north (or to places like Hawaii) because they pay more in welfare benefits. Section 8 covers a good portion of the rent, so that negates the cost of living hikes for living up here. Replies to this message: gagrice (Mar 09, 2009 6:13 pm) cooterbfd (Mar 11, 2009 4:37 pm) gagrice (Mar 11, 2009 5:07 pm) and 15 more...
#7172 of 7263 Re: the end [cooterbfd] by gagrice Mar 09, 2009 (6:13 pm)
Replying to: cooterbfd (Mar 09, 2009 5:46 pm) I would look for cuts by the states on many programs. We just had dinner with a lady that is an SSI officer. She said CA is cutting their portion of SSI as of May 1st and again July 1st. A single person can get a max now of $906 per month and that will be cut by $30+ this year. It is hard to find a rental for that much. And section 8 has a long wait list here. In Hawaii section 8 wait is over 4 years. Not sure what it all has to do with buying American. A lot of folks will not be buying American or foreign cars with this economy. Replies to this message: cooterbfd (Mar 11, 2009 4:37 pm) gagrice (Mar 11, 2009 5:07 pm) cooterbfd (Mar 11, 2009 5:13 pm) and 13 more... lilengineerboy (Mar 11, 2009 5:15 pm)
#7173 of 7263 Re: the end [gagrice] by cooterbfd Mar 11, 2009 (4:37 pm)
Replying to: gagrice (Mar 09, 2009 6:13 pm) I was just replying to the comment you made about Shelby: "The truth is that Shelby is doing his job in representing the people of Alabama. Why should the auto workers in his state pay to prop up the losers in Michigan. Makes no sense at all. Helping the weak survive only breeds a Weak Nation." I agree that welfare payments should be curtailed for abusers. What also would make sense is, that unless you can prove residency say w/in the last 5 (maybe 10) years in a state, that you must wait a year or 18 months before applying for welfare (or prove that you were gainfully employed at the time of moving to your new state). This will stop abuses. People in states like Michigan have been paying to prop up the losers from states like Shelby's for years now. Payback is a female dog. Replies to this message: gagrice (Mar 11, 2009 5:07 pm) cooterbfd (Mar 11, 2009 5:13 pm) lilengineerboy (Mar 11, 2009 5:16 pm) and 12 more... lilengineerboy (Mar 11, 2009 5:15 pm)