Buying American Cars What Does It Mean?

7263 messages, Last post on May 27, 2009 at 4:31 AM

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With parts coming from everywhere, does "Buying American" have much meaning anymore? Is quality and price the bottom line?

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#6673 of 7263 Re: Big Day Coming Up!!!!!!!! [anythngbutgm] by andre1969 Dec 04, 2008 (9:17 am)
Replying to: anythngbutgm (Dec 04, 2008 9:14 am) I think it's amazing that they can take something that weighs roughly three tons, and can manage to get it to break 20 mpg. But you're right, there are more practical vehicles out there.
#6674 of 7263 Re: Big Day Coming Up!!!!!!!! [nvbanker] by bpizzuti Dec 04, 2008 (9:37 am)
Replying to: nvbanker (Dec 04, 2008 8:49 am) So knowing they'd go out of business signing, they signed. I'm still waiting to hear why it's 100% the UAW's fault, and no percentage of blame is assigned to the auto manufacturers.
#6675 of 7263 imidaz by marsha7 Dec 04, 2008 (9:48 am)
"Then after damaging one company over the others and obtaining an agreement, they use that agreement against the other of the Big 3."...the actual name for that, no surprise, is "pattern bargaining"... Replies to this message: gagrice (Dec 05, 2008 7:28 am)
#6677 of 7263 Re: Poor Choice of Transportation!!!!!! [motorcity6] by bpizzuti Dec 04, 2008 (10:12 am)
A trip from Detroit to Miami in an electric car would probably take two weeks.. A trip to Miami should take less than a day or two (by plane or train). Maybe I will add a SS Trailblazer, 390 hp, 20"wheels, and performance suspension..to my collection Yeah, should make a nice hood ornament once gas goes to $20 per gallon.
#6678 of 7263 Re: Big Day Coming Up!!!!!!!! [anythngbutgm] by 62vetteefp Dec 04, 2008 (10:53 am)
Replying to: anythngbutgm (Dec 04, 2008 9:14 am) Amazing? How? I guess if you have no background in cars or engineering going from 14 mpg to 20 mpg (42% increase) seems easy but it is quite amazing. Imagine a huge/heavy 8 passenger vehicle with a V8 high HP engine with a large payload capacity can get as good a gas mileage as a 4 cylinder 5 passenger Toyota Camry. Or even better than the V6 version. Yes it is expensive but the fact that it can be done w/o radical changes to the vehicle is amazing. Replies to this message: gagrice (Dec 05, 2008 7:42 am)
#6679 of 7263 by anythngbutgm Dec 04, 2008 (12:25 pm)
"Imagine a huge/heavy 8 passenger vehicle with a V8 high HP engine with a large payload capacity" Escalade Hybrid: 202.5" x 79" x 75.9" Traverse: 205" x 78.4" x 72.8" EH: 8 passenger seating Enclave: Same Traverse: 7 EH Payload: 1339 lbs Traverse: 1444 lbs FWIW Enclave: 1631 lbs Towing capacity EH: 5600 lbs Traverse: 5200 lbs going from 14 mpg to 20 mpg (42% increase) seems easy but it is quite amazing. EH: 20/20/20 Traverse: 16/23/19 I guess I'm more impressed with how well they did with the Lambda.
#6680 of 7263 Re: Big Day Coming Up!!!!!!!! [anythngbutgm] by circlew Dec 04, 2008 (6:35 pm)
Replying to: anythngbutgm (Dec 04, 2008 6:14 am) I agree. The BOF SUV's will be dwindling and the CUV's will probably be Hybridized. The slick part of the oil market and the fact that OPEC is letting the market cave in is a catch22 for the U.S. They know that drillers will discontinue at a high rate and that high prices will be right around the corner. Regards, OW
#6681 of 7263 Gas gong under $1? by 62vetteefp Dec 05, 2008 (4:05 am)
There is no doubt the current recession and credit crunch has been hitting Americans’ squarely in the wallet, but there appears to be at least one bit of silver lining to the economic downturn – lower gas prices. For the month of January, crude oil futures fell to just $43.67, the lowest per barrel price since January 2005. Moreover, many industry experts are predicting that crude oil could fall below $25 per barrel early next year. “We’ve got the U.S, U.K., Europe and Japan all in recession for the first time since World War II, and the oil market is reacting,” Chip Hodge, a managing director at MFC Global Investment Management in Boston, told Bloomberg. If China starts to feel the effects of a recession, prices could plummet even lower. To put $25 per barrel into perspective, crude oil hit a high of $147.27 per barrel in July, resulting in a per gallon national average record of $4.11 per gallon. At the current per barrel rate of about $44, national prices are hovering around $1.78 per gallon, meaning a drop to $25 or less could result in gas prices tumbling below a dollar per gallon. That’s good news for individual families, but a sad commentary on the current state of the world economy. Replies to this message: circlew (Dec 05, 2008 4:40 am)
#6682 of 7263 Re: Gas gong under $1? [62vetteefp] by circlew Dec 05, 2008 (4:40 am)
Replying to: 62vetteefp (Dec 05, 2008 4:05 am) The irony is that now is the time to redouble efforts for automotive efficiency and drastically reduce our dependence on the oil industry which in my view is the leading factor in all economic moves in this current and last century. I am all for Hybrids and full electric tech. I am sure most members here at Edmunds knows the price of oil will not stay at these levels as the economy turns. The cycles of price fluctuations are fast and burned the Big 3 BIG TIME. We all can not be blind to energy independence as a major goal in the next new economy. "We won't be fooled again!" Regards, OW