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Automotive News & Views Buying American Cars What Does It Mean?
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With parts coming from everywhere, does "Buying American" have much meaning anymore? Is quality and price the bottom line?
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 04, 2008 5:57 am) Or someone who believes that these low fuel prices are only a temporary thing. When you are living at home for free you can afford an expensive ride. That's nice when you get there, but how many people can claim that nowadays? |
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 04, 2008 5:57 am) Witness the dumping of Hummer and the continual decline in sales of BOF trucks that are contributing to GM's demise. Gas is at 1.73 here and yet you are still more likely to spot bigfoot than you would a Tahoe or a Suburban...
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Replying to: anythngbutgm (Dec 04, 2008 6:14 am) Not the case in So CA. It is a sea of blinged out SUVs and PU trucks. Hummers were never more than a niche. Most of the Tahoe, Denali Escalade drivers around here are early 20s. With $10k worth of ugly wheels and tires. Or an F350 diesel Ford lifted sky high. If it were not for big SUVs and PU trucks GM & Ford would already be missing from the CA landscape. People that buy cars go foreign. What was the statistic in San Francisco, 86% import vehicles. I don't think SoCA is that high, but close. We still have lots of retired Navy guys that drive Caddies. Non Com retirees drive Oldsmobile and Buick. They usually keep cars for 20 years like Lemko. That is not going to keep GM going. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 04, 2008 5:57 am) Aren't you the same gagrice who declared that high gas prices made trucks and SUVs a good buy, since there was little demand for them? Same principle applies here in the converse.
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Replying to: bumpy (Dec 04, 2008 8:38 am) I've actually thought about that. Have the lower gas prices put enough pressure on small cars yet to knock their prices down? If I could pick up something like an '06 or newer Civic on the cheap, I might consider it, but I doubt if they're at fire-sale prices just yet! A local used car lot has an '04 Civic coupe, red, stickshift, 50K miles, for $11K. And a 1994 Accord DX with 95K miles on it for $5495. Automatic, a/c, but crank windows. They also have a '98 Corolla with 105K miles, white, automatic for $6995. I don't care how good their reputation is, but in my mind, that price is a rip! Now it's a nice one...an LE model. Power windows. Ad even says it has side airbags! Were those even out yet in '98? Still, I can't see paying that kind of money for an economy car with over 100K miles. |
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Dec 01, 2008 2:24 am) You're kidding, right? Because if the goofball at the car company doesn't sign, they strike and shut the company down until they agree to the out of market wage!
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Dec 03, 2008 9:27 am) |
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Replying to: nvbanker (Dec 04, 2008 8:49 am) The pattern for the union in the past was to pick the more successful of the Big 3 and threaten to strike them while negotiating with them or pick the one with the most to lose with a strike at that time. If they couldn't reach an agreement, they struck that company and caused them no income and loses in an area where they were susceptible to a stoppage at that time. I believe there was a strike at the Malibu plant when the new, competitive Malibu was first being brought out. Then after damaging one company over the others and obtaining an agreement, they use that agreement against the other of the Big 3. This method was effective through the decades: suffer huge losses relative to the other two weaker companies or make an agreement that is against the company/customer's interests.
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Dec 03, 2008 1:20 pm) Chevy's own Traverse is just as big, has more cargo capacity, no ancient 4-speed, gets 16/23 and costs 30 grand less. Even in towing, the EH can tow only 400lbs more. For an even closer comparison, load up a Buick Enclave and the "amazing" goes away very quickly, unless you have a fetish for 12 inch tall H-Y-B-R-I-D stickers or the gangsta-rap image that goes along with owning the Caddy.
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