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Automotive News & Views Buying American Cars What Does It Mean?
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With parts coming from everywhere, does "Buying American" have much meaning anymore? Is quality and price the bottom line?
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 02, 2008 4:44 pm) Unless it was built by illegal ali...*ahem* I mean, temporary undocumented migrant day laborers.  It's hard to say what's American these days...the Ford built in Mexico, or the Subaru built in Indiana. |
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Replying to: lemko (Dec 01, 2008 7:48 am) 
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62: "Article in paper yesterday that lawyer work is being outsourced to India"...NO...NO...NO...say it isn't so...    Yeah, it had to happen...let's face it...if someone over there understands English, and it is a boilerplate contract, why not have someone check it for errors???...and even matters more complex... While I rail at the union (UAW) for their stupid demands, I also realize that my field is also subject to price competition, and we don't like it either...but we are at least smart enough to acknowledge it exists and we have to compete to win... I used to do real estate closings...we received $600 per closing, not great for the work involved, but it was OK...then someone down the street offered to do them for $300...I knew then that it was time to get out and let the cheapest guy win...I could not do it for $300 for the time involved...competition sucks, but it IS reality... steve: yeah, you busted my chops, but when did I lower the markup to ONLY 200%???.....
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Replying to: marsha7 (Dec 02, 2008 6:32 pm) |
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Replying to: marsha7 (Dec 02, 2008 6:32 pm) I'm sorry Bob, but I'll have to partially disagree with you. I'ts one thing to have an AMERICAN LAWYER doing RE closings for less than you (or the $150 divorces), but someone in India doing legal work (I don't care how sublime it is) somehow is just plain WRONG. I mean, if they miss something YOU are still liable, as you would sign off on their work (not to say an American can't mess up). I get the whole "global economy" thing, but I just have a problem w/ us being the world's caretaker when they won't take care of their own, and we haven't taken care of our own. |
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Replying to: motorcity6 (Dec 02, 2008 3:08 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Dec 03, 2008 6:56 am) 
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Replying to: m1miata (Dec 03, 2008 8:48 am) http://www.autobloggreen.com/2008/01/09/las-vegas-to-the-get-the-1000th-gm-allis- on-hybrid-bus-this-month/  According to a study conducted in 2006 by the National Renewable Energy Laboratory, transit buses with GM-Allison's hybrid technology deliver up to 75 percent better fuel economy than traditional transit buses, and reduce emissions of nitrogen oxides (NOx) up to 39 percent, particulate matter (PM) up to 97 percent, carbon monoxide up to 60 percent and hydrocarbons up to 75 percent. The report was published in December 2006, and can be viewed at http://www.nrel.gov/vehiclesandfuels/fleettest/pdfs/40585.pdf.
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With gas  $4++++, the eco crowd was paying big bucks to "feel good", shelling out 3-6 grand over MSRP just to drive the second ugliest car ever made..Now with petrol under $2.00, your local Toy dealer will kiss your backside and throw in the store to get them off the lot. Some owners are probably upside down 10 grand, and probably not too happy, wishing they had bought the 30mpg car with some comfort and lots of protection from SUV collisions..The Kool-Aid crowd no doubt stepped up to plate and shelled out hard earned bucks to drive an Asian rickshaw.. Awful cold here in Fla, maybe we should start up our big internal combustion engines and heat up the air... Don't worry about all the Global weather worries, for Mother Nature trumps Politics every time.. You crave a retro-car, gas loving critter, great time to buy. Looking for a 2005 LS V-8, 2005 T-Bird or 2007 Dodge Hemi wagon, under 10k miles..May unload the 2006 GPGT for I am running out garage space at 3.. I was impressed after reading several articles on the Chevy COBALT SS with the 260 hp 4-banger, it would probably cream my Bullitt..Maybe a 4dr w/sunroof for around 19k... Hope everyone is enjoying the Big3 bailout hearing before Congress, lots of hot air from our esteemed Congressional experts, after everyone gets through belittling Detroit and scoring points with their constituents with their screaming babble over business plans which our $160,000yr folks really don't understand, they will dole out the cash, pat themselves on the back and hit the UAW up for more contributions.. Folks, it's a sad day for American industry when our life takes a big hit and the Motorcity has to agree to build crap that nobody wants except the Kool-Aid crowd..
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"...someone in India doing legal work (I don't care how sublime it is) somehow is just plain WRONG. I mean, if they miss something YOU are still liable, as you would sign off on their work..." I must be missing your point...if someone in India is doing legal work for a client, I am not going near it with a ten foot pole...I don't care what THEY miss, as I am not liable for any of it...that is the other side of outsourcing---caveat emptor... How much did I miss your point??? Remember, I do bankruptcy and personal injury...bankruptcy is a one-to-one type of situation, often highly emotional for the client...I do not see that being done in India, and besides, if you have ever dealt with Indians or Pakistanis (try 7-Eleven) there is a culture barrier where they cannot come across as sympathetic...plus, their cultures still see women as low class chattel, and their condescending attitude to women is, frankly, repulsive to me...
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