Buying American Cars What Does It Mean?

7263 messages, Last post on May 27, 2009 at 4:31 AM

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With parts coming from everywhere, does "Buying American" have much meaning anymore? Is quality and price the bottom line?

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#6629 of 7263 Re: Big Day Coming Up!!!!!!!! [lemko] by bpizzuti Dec 02, 2008 (8:59 am)
Replying to: lemko (Dec 01, 2008 1:54 pm) It's not amateur, nor is it a theory. The Saudis came out and said that they were concerned that if the price stayed too high it would impact oil use to a large degree. Presumably that would be because alternatives would become more cost-effective in addition to people simply curtailing their use of gasoline. So it's not too far of a reach..similar enough to large companies selling products at a loss to drive a smaller competitor out of business, which has been done many times.
#6630 of 7263 Re: Big Day Coming Up!!!!!!!! [bpizzuti] by andres3 Dec 02, 2008 (10:54 am)
Replying to: bpizzuti (Nov 26, 2008 3:02 am) But if you want complaining rights, you want Korean iron, since they'll stand by their product for 10 years, something the domestics don't want to do yet. Wish they would, good P/R decision that should boost immediate sales and not cost much to implement initially; the costs are all down the road, but by then they're out of the woods or out of business anyway. I've been saying for years the domestics need to extend their warranties and stand behind their product equal to the Koreans with 10 year warranties and long bumper to bumper warranties, but no, they won't do it. Why? I suspect because deep down they know their products are still crap. Also, GM did extend their powertrain warranties (although not equal to the Koreans), and that is probably coming back to bite them really hard as it's been around for a few years now (when did it start) and may be a HUGE and main reason they are running in the red financially now. I didn't see how the Big 3 could extend their warranties and still make money, unless of course, they started selling Honda's and Toyotas. I'm sure GM's warranty work expenditures accounting and logs are as cooked as Enron's books were. Replies to this message: steve_ (Dec 02, 2008 11:16 am) motorcity6 (Dec 02, 2008 3:08 pm) gagrice (Dec 02, 2008 4:44 pm) and 7 more... lemko (Dec 03, 2008 6:56 am) and 53 more...
#6631 of 7263 Who bails out the Bailer?????? by motorcity6 Dec 02, 2008 (11:12 am)
All the good taxpayers!!!!! I hope you youngsters keep on working hard and paying taxes to cover the bailouts along with my Medicare and SS checks..My lifestyle is depending on you all to cover the gas bills, insurance, villa maintenance fees, groceries, and property taxes. I will cover the balance of my living costs with the stock market games.. I had to fill-up the hungry GPGT with ethanol premium and lost 2 mpgs right now, what a farce the corny gas is!!!! In reviewing the president-elect personnel picks and the choice of many exClintonites, I was truly disappointed to see that Sandy Berger was not selected for any document swapping/destroying cabinet position..The weasel would be a perfect choice.. See where Toy sales were down 34% last month, another bailout in the asking??? Another solution to the Big3 problem---$1500 tariff on every foreign transplant produced and sold in American..payable to our Treasury Dept...to pay for the bailout of the Big3.. Happy to hear Ford is healthy and will be able to replace any busted parts on the Bullitt... Just maybe the American public will get the message, and boycott the Asian products..That's just nasty, isn't it!!!????
#6632 of 7263 Re: Big Day Coming Up!!!!!!!! [andres3] by steve_ HOST Dec 02, 2008 (11:16 am)
Replying to: andres3 (Dec 02, 2008 10:54 am) GM did extend their powertrain warranties (although not equal to the Koreans), and that is probably coming back to bite them "If GM has done its accruals correctly, provisions should have been made to finance those costs at the time of sale." Big if? Note the chart there - GM's claims rate is up a percentage in the last year. General Motors' Warranties (Warranty Week) Replies to this message: motorcity6 (Dec 02, 2008 3:08 pm) gagrice (Dec 02, 2008 4:44 pm) steve_ (Dec 02, 2008 5:22 pm) and 5 more... bpizzuti (Dec 02, 2008 6:00 pm) lemko (Dec 03, 2008 6:56 am) m1miata (Dec 03, 2008 8:48 am) and 52 more...
#6633 of 7263 Re: Big Day Coming Up!!!!!!!! [steve_] by motorcity6 Dec 02, 2008 (3:08 pm)
Replying to: steve_ (Dec 02, 2008 11:16 am) Never looked at a Korean Car, however, is the warranty transferable to the next party..Their names don't really set off any big desire to own..Resale on the Korean wheels is miserable, so I guess the warranty is a real come-on. !00,000 mile warranties probably became a must for GM, however they aren't a big selling point to me..The most I ever had was on the Caddies, and had one engine replaced long after the warranty of 50k had gone south..free of charge..4.9 liter., piston slap when starting cold..no big deal.. The day I buy a Korean car is the day I rennounce my citizenship!!!!! Sorry, at 75, I not going to throw the Big3 under the bus..... Kind of funny the banks and the big boys were bailed out quick with biggggg billions and the auto companies are grilled and sliced up for effect, a drama setting, total political spin...Stevey, it's all political!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Replies to this message: gagrice (Dec 02, 2008 4:44 pm) steve_ (Dec 02, 2008 5:22 pm) fezo (Dec 02, 2008 5:24 pm) and 4 more... bpizzuti (Dec 02, 2008 6:00 pm) lemko (Dec 03, 2008 6:56 am) m1miata (Dec 03, 2008 8:48 am) 62vetteefp (Dec 03, 2008 9:27 am) and 51 more...
#6634 of 7263 Re: Big Day Coming Up!!!!!!!! [motorcity6] by gagrice Dec 02, 2008 (4:44 pm)
Replying to: motorcity6 (Dec 02, 2008 3:08 pm) Sorry, at 75, I not going to throw the Big3 under the bus..... At 65 it looks to me like GM keeps crawling in front of the train. They haven't done anything right for nearly 40 years. They are no more American than some Korean cars. Their Aveo is made in Korea. Now if you are interested in bailing out Americans. How about the building contractors. They represent a LOT MORE American workers than the Big 3. They want some of this easy money also. Nothing more American than your home built by Americans in America. I just read today that several states including CA have asked for over $100 billion to keep afloat. Heck I could use $25 for when the pizza guy gets here. Replies to this message: steve_ (Dec 02, 2008 5:22 pm) fezo (Dec 02, 2008 5:24 pm) steve_ (Dec 02, 2008 5:25 pm) and 3 more... bpizzuti (Dec 02, 2008 6:00 pm)
#6635 of 7263 Re: Big Day Coming Up!!!!!!!! [gagrice] by steve_ HOST Dec 02, 2008 (5:22 pm)
Replying to: gagrice (Dec 02, 2008 4:44 pm) My in-laws sold their BMW at age ~75 and got a Buick. My mom is a decade older and just sold her Mazda. What does it mean? Just that age doesn't really prove anything. Replies to this message: fezo (Dec 02, 2008 5:24 pm) steve_ (Dec 02, 2008 5:25 pm) fezo (Dec 02, 2008 5:27 pm) and 2 more...
#6636 of 7263 Re: Big Day Coming Up!!!!!!!! [steve_] by fezo Dec 02, 2008 (5:24 pm)
Replying to: steve_ (Dec 02, 2008 5:22 pm) Well at 75 doesn't the law say that you HAVE to buy a Buick? My dad snuck by and didn't get one until he was maybe 86. Of course he'd been leasing DeVilles for over a decade at that point. Replies to this message: steve_ (Dec 02, 2008 5:25 pm) fezo (Dec 02, 2008 5:27 pm) steve_ (Dec 02, 2008 5:28 pm) and 1 more...
#6637 of 7263 Re: Big Day Coming Up!!!!!!!! [fezo] by steve_ HOST Dec 02, 2008 (5:25 pm)
Replying to: fezo (Dec 02, 2008 5:24 pm) Mostly they moved to the U.P. and couldn't find a mechanic, and GM iron is everywhere. Replies to this message: fezo (Dec 02, 2008 5:27 pm) steve_ (Dec 02, 2008 5:28 pm) fezo (Dec 02, 2008 5:32 pm)
#6638 of 7263 Re: Big Day Coming Up!!!!!!!! [steve_] by fezo Dec 02, 2008 (5:27 pm)
Replying to: steve_ (Dec 02, 2008 5:25 pm) Oh, if they moved there I could definitely see that. Beautiful up there though I can't imagine dealing with taht weather at 75... Replies to this message: steve_ (Dec 02, 2008 5:28 pm) fezo (Dec 02, 2008 5:32 pm)