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Automotive News & Views Buying American Cars What Does It Mean?
7263 messages, Last post on May 27, 2009 at 4:31 AM
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With parts coming from everywhere, does "Buying American" have much meaning anymore? Is quality and price the bottom line?
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Nov 27, 2008 5:43 pm) I figured as much. It just gets my gall to think that someone could spend tens of thousands of dollars on an education, only to be undercut by someone who makes literally a fraction of what you make. Pretty soon we'll need a Phd just to get a job at Mcdonalds. |
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Nov 26, 2008 4:53 pm) As for wages, it is the market for workers with the ability to do that particular work which will set the wage, unless you are talking socialism, communism or union scales. I would imagine somewhere between $15 and $25 per hour to make sense for the job at hand - in other words, that is what I would expect to make.
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Replying to: m1miata (Nov 30, 2008 5:21 pm)
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Replying to: nvbanker (Nov 30, 2008 7:32 pm) It's up to the car company to determine what pay rate is profitable to pay their employees at. If they screw up that math it's THEIR fault, because union or no, they'd likely pay their employees too much (kinda like they're paying most of their non-union execs too much right now, for example). Now, mind you, the union isn't helping with the jobs bank and all...they're not innocent. But there's no way they should be carrying 100% or even 51% of the guilt.
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Nov 27, 2008 6:03 pm) Article in paper yesterday that lawyer work is being outsourced to India. Contracts go over there and they have rows of Indian lawyers going through them looking for errors. Guess that is a good thing. May soon not have any lawyers here. Naww that will not happen. Most of DC is lawyers and they will stop that somehow. Probably say it is not safe to have overseas labor looking at important contracts. May bring our country down it they make a mistake.
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Dec 01, 2008 4:36 am) Follow the money. Time to play favorites? The automakers "agendas are diverging as they contemplate futures as drastically different car companies." Each Player in Big Three to Bring Its Own Plan (NY Times) The plans? UAW: Signaling More Concessions GM: Deeper Cuts, Possible Brand Eliminations Ford: Focus on Fuel Economy Chrysler: Looking for a Partner While Squabbling with Daimler Detroit Three: Making the Sales Pitch of a Lifetime (AutoObserver) |
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It's a laugh when our Congress thinks they know more about building cars than Detroit..Granted our folks in the Motorcity have made some mistakes, but to be insulted by our congressional folks is pure hypocrisy..Our congress clowns never held a job in the real business world and we are letting them decide the future of our manufacturing base..Get real!!!! Class envy and class warfare--Autos are pure politics---Without lobbyist to pad their $160,000 congressional salary, these clowns would be lucky to make $10.00/hr in the business world.. The American/Detroit auto has become 100% political.. Solution: Let the UAW agree to 19.50/hr, full health benefits and no pension..Existing workers can take a buyout of $50,000 max depending on yrs of employment, and hit the bricks.. No gravy train lasts forever, you just take while the pot of gold is there, and go on with life.. Isn't the EPA political, and the auto BS coming out of California all enclosed in Politics??????????????????? The Bullitt runs like a champ, very smooth up to triple digits, perfect wheel balance and zippo driveline vibration..The 5-speed gearbox is smooth, however I would prefer an automatic..In reflection, my 71 SS350 Camaro still has the edge on the Bullitt, it was a great ride, those 90k miles in 18 mos with the Turbo-hydramatic slicing the shifts..Inflation--the SS350 stickered around $3,500 and the Bullitt was around $33,000.. I see where Ford on the 2010 models is using the Bullitt 315 HP and offering a performance pkg consisting of items from the Bullitt parts bin..I choose the Bullitt mainly due to the suspension goodies, lacking from the std GT.. It seems to draw a crowd, so that means it is subject to vandalism and that means it's a day car only..Got to keep the insurance company happy, no political stickers for it might just upset someone for a friendily scratch across the painted surfaces.. No doubt it would be a Kool-Aid drinker..
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Nov 27, 2008 6:03 pm) Mr. Smith, why should McDonald's hire you? Well, I just got my PhD in Fryology from MIT last month and I'm furthering my studies in burger engineering. I also specialized in shake processing analysis at Cornell...
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Replying to: motorcity6 (Dec 01, 2008 7:31 am) Good post, fair and balanced. I only put political stickers on my beater PU truck. Too many wackos allowed to run free here in LaLa Land. You are right that Our Congress is clueless about business, though they are the best money can buy. Every bit of legislation can be traced to a political contribution. |
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Replying to: motorcity6 (Dec 01, 2008 7:31 am) Not so much of a laugh these days, when Detroit is hemorrhaging money faster than Washington. Fact is, if the government (meaning us the taxpayers) is going to buy a stake in these auto companies (my much preferred method of "bailing out" companies...loans suck) then they have a right to a say in how the company is run, same as us if we bought stock directly. That being said, I agree with your solution on the UAW side...given today's job market and health care costs, that's a fairly sweet deal for both sides. You should seriously write your Congress-critters and let them know that that should be a condition. Matter of fact, I think I'll do that myself. |
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