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Automotive News & Views Buying American Cars What Does It Mean?
7263 messages, Last post on May 27, 2009 at 4:31 AM
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With parts coming from everywhere, does "Buying American" have much meaning anymore? Is quality and price the bottom line?
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Replying to: alltorque (Nov 26, 2008 6:44 am) You have poked the problem Right in the eye. We having dueling regulators in this country that are not satisfied till they have completely bastardized every vehicle made. For example: the Smart as sold in the EU and Canada gets 70+ MPG. About what you would expect from such a small vehicle. By they time it hit our showrooms it was lucky to get 35 MPG. I am amazed that VW was finally able to get their fine diesel cars passed all the eco wienies that control our government. We do not have a single American nameplate sold in the USA that is even close to the VW TDI and its 50 MPG. It would be a shame to bring down a company that is building good cars outside our restrictive borders. So maybe GM and Ford can continue in the rest of the World. Maybe someday we will be freed from the tyranny that prevents good high mileage cars & PU trucks from being built and sold here. |
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Replying to: motorcity6 (Nov 25, 2008 9:15 am) The fact that you still refer to Civics as "little metal cans" and consider a starting wage of $14.58 per hour for unskilled labor to be worthy of a "sweat shop" could serve as Exhibit A of the Detroit mentality, and why GM and Chrysler were in Washington, D.C., begging for a handout to prevent bankruptcy.
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Replying to: andres3 (Nov 25, 2008 10:38 am) I'm fine with requiring Mullaly and Waggoner selling their jets, as long as our public servants (Reid & Pelosi) have to sell theirs, which are paid for by the taxpayers directly..... Otherwise, that is none of Congress' business. What a bunch of hypocrites!
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Replying to: nvbanker (Nov 26, 2008 10:56 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 26, 2008 12:46 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 26, 2008 12:52 pm)
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Replying to: grbeck (Nov 26, 2008 8:06 am)  Second, in spite of you THINKING they lack skill, if Honda makes so much money on them, and the Civic is put together as well as you guys claim, then maybe the workers DESERVE more than $15/ hr.
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Nov 26, 2008 4:53 pm) Just for comparison, an entry-level job in information technology, doing operations, PC, and network troubleshooting and such, makes $15 per hour in my area of the Hudson Valley, which is a fairly high-rent area for the suburbs. That job requires an education in information technology. $15 per hour for unskilled labor jobs on an assembly line is quite good as a starting salary, especially when it's not in McMansion-ville. By the way, the term "skilled" and "unskilled" labor are not judgments on actual skill; they're technical terms indicating the level of training and vetting they have to go through to be in the profession. Most contractors, particularly electrical and plumbing for example, are considered skilled labor. They had to get educated, study, and be certified or licensed in their trade. Unskilled labor is typically when Joe Bloe can step off the street, be shown how to do a particular task, and then do it. It's a lot more complex than that, but that's the general gist of it.
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