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Buying American Cars What Does It Mean?

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With parts coming from everywhere, does "Buying American" have much meaning anymore? Is quality and price the bottom line?


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Re: Old Mopar parking brake? [lemko] by andre1969
Nov 24, 2008 (12:24 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Nov 24, 2008 12:20 pm)

Didn't older Chrysler products have a parking brake that locked the driveshaft?
 
My DeSoto's parking brake clamps down either on the driveshaft or at the end of the transmission; I can't remember which. But it is in no way connected to the rear brakes of the car.
 
I think Mopar used that setup through 1964 on the bigger cars, although the compact Valiant/Lancer/Dart might have started life with a conventional setup that connected the rear brakes.
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Re: Ahhhh, so now [m1miata] by lemko [imidazol97] [m1miata] [obyone] by imidazol97
Nov 24, 2008 (1:22 pm)
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Replying to: obyone (Nov 24, 2008 10:45 am)

> If you look at the setup those miniture pads were definitely not designed to stop a car in an emergency situation
 
My parking brake uses the rear brakes, drum or disc, to effect their stopping effort.
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Re: Ahhhh, so now [m1miata] by oldcem
Nov 24, 2008 (9:02 pm)
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Replying to: m1miata (Nov 23, 2008 7:28 pm)

Sounds like you did OK. However Honda here wouldn't deal. As I indicated, I got the Aura off the lot for $20,005 total ( includes tax, title, and financing). The Saturn dealer here tried the add-on bit, but, I told him firmly - either it goes away, or, I walk . The salesman that worked with me that day also offered me a loaded XR model for exactly $4K more. Guess they were hungry.
 
Regards:
OldCEM
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Re: Ahhhh, so now [m1miata] by lemko [imidazol97] [m1miata] [obyone] [imidazol97] by obyone
Nov 25, 2008 (6:00 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Nov 24, 2008 1:22 pm)

My parking brake uses the rear brakes, drum or disc, to effect their stopping effort.
 
OK. I'll bite. What kind of car you got?
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Big Day Coming Up!!!!!!!! by motorcity6
Nov 25, 2008 (9:15 am)
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Had my last 3 posting removed, no problem, sign of the times I guess???
 
Big day is tomorrow, the Bullitt arrives from the Motorcity, just got a call from the trucker and all is well, 8:30am in front of my villa..The noisy piece of nostalgia is a cure for the economic gloom and doom..Lots of carbon will be put into the atmosphere by this neat little bomb..We could use a little "Global Warming" in Fla
for the last couple weeks have been chilly..I won't carry that subject any further for it could upset the political correctness of this Edmunds forum.
 
Honda is running a "sweat shop" in Greensburg, Indiana, paying only $14.85/hr in their new assembly plant..churring out little metal cans called "Civics"..However the wage will elevate to almost $18.00/hr in 2009..Call the UAW folks and see if those Hoosiers would go for $36.00/hr+awesome benefits..Do people really work for a foreign company for such low wages????That's evil!!!
 
Indiana is a mecca for the foreigners, a Subaru plant in Lafayette, Ind, home of Purdue Univ where I spent a year and finsihed the trip at Univ of Arizona..one Honda Plt, and a Toy Plant..
 
I was born in Indiana, Naptown, Marion county and spent all summers in Monticello. Indiana, White county..family farm and lake home..What a blast!!!
 
Filled up the Camry yesterday, 313 miles averaged 22.85mpgs..Sick mileage for an anemic 4-banger of 158hp. Last week I filled the 260hp S/C Pontiac averaging 21.86mpgs for 320 miles.. Now which auto is the fun car???? It ain't the Toy, the Motorcity auto is the winner..
 
I did visit the Honda forum on Edmunds when I had the hots for a SiCivic and owners were complaining that clutchs and gearboxs will failing around 10k and the Honda dealers wouldn't step up to the plate on the warranty issue, claiming hotrodding and aggressive driving wasn,t covered by Tokyo standards..I could see where another lawyer would be on my payroll again..Bye Honda..
 
Go Ford and grab a Bullitt, however they just may disappear soon, but if they are still around and my Bullitt upchucks something, it will be fixed under warranty..After all, old Henry Ford expects owners of his V-8s to keep the pedal to the firewall, it's part of the American landscape..No pussy-footing around in the Bullitt..I don't go easy on the Pontiac, like to see the supercharger work a bit, and if it goes South, GM will replace, if they are still around..
 
Lighten up folks!!!!! and buy cars you can abuse, for it's tough to preserve a 4-banger sitting in a tin can and trying to milk it for 200k miles..Buy the Big3 iron and get complaining rights if it fails.
 
I destroyed a 48 Chevy motor trying to get 70mph in 2nd gear, when 65 was tops..Old man had a new engine installed and I got the 50 Ford Crestliner V-8 w/od and we could get 90 in second gear, solved a big problem for my teenage yr..The problem with the straight 6 48 Chev was lack of full-pressure lubrication and the scoops on the crankshaft didn't supply even oil at high RPMs..The gangsters always used Fords in the old days..
 
Getting low on money, move to the robust economy of Indiana and enjoy working for a Jap company. Making 30 grand a yr, you may have to eat raw fish to survive, but it's our new energy, green life style..
 
No politics today, just reality...Life in the 30's, 40's, 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's was great..However 2008 and beyond is iffy..
 
Old-timer, enjoy the Saturn for it will serve you well..
 
Are there any Collectible Asian built cars going across the auction block at Barrett-Jackson???? My neighbor still is trying to sell me his 1990 Twin-Turbo 370hp 300 ZX something, my offer is 4k, he still has his 2002 SVT Focus, on it's third of tires w/only 36k miles..all Jap directional tires which have a life span of zip...
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Re: Big Day Coming Up!!!!!!!! [motorcity6] by dieselone
Nov 25, 2008 (9:39 am)
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Replying to: motorcity6 (Nov 25, 2008 9:15 am)

SVT Focus, on it's third of tires w/only 36k miles..all Jap directional tires which have a life span of zip...
 
I bought a new SVT Contour in '98 and it would eat through Goodyear Eagle GSCs every 20k with 90% hwy driving. You want sticky tires, you get zero tread life.
 
BTW, I grew up in Indiana too. Spent many days on Lake Shaffer and Freeman. My wife and I actually rented a house on Lake Freeman when we were newly weds and we both graduated from Purdue. Small world
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Re: Big Day Coming Up!!!!!!!! [motorcity6] by andres3
Nov 25, 2008 (10:38 am)
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Replying to: motorcity6 (Nov 25, 2008 9:15 am)

paying only $14.85/hr in their new assembly plant..churring out little metal cans called "Civics"..However the wage will elevate to almost $18.00/hr in 2009..Call the UAW folks and see if those Hoosiers would go for $36.00/hr+awesome benefits..Do people really work for a foreign company for such low wages????That's evil!!!
 
I think American's willing to work for a DECENT $14.85/hour are commendable and I'm sure that is far preferred to NOT WORKING AT ALL or becomming equivalent to a begger on the street asking the GOV't to pay their way!!!!!! I know I'd prefer to work for $14.85 an hour before you'd catch me asking for a handout/bailout/donation/charity/welfare payment. I guess the Big 3 like unemployment as all their workers seemed determined to send the companies in that direction.
 
I hope those Lear Jet Leases were worth the millions spent on them. I'm sure the Average Joe appreciates their retirement fizzling into half while the Big 3 CEO's begging in DC spend more than half that retirement account in one day.
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Re: Big Day Coming Up!!!!!!!! [motorcity6] by bumpy
Nov 25, 2008 (11:21 am)
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Replying to: motorcity6 (Nov 25, 2008 9:15 am)

Honda is running a "sweat shop" in Greensburg, Indiana, paying only $14.85/hr in their new assembly plant
 
$30,000 a year to start is pretty damn good for someone just walking in off the street with no previous experience. Hell, those impoverished Indianans could buy a new Civic on that kind of moolah.
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Re: Big Day Coming Up!!!!!!!! [bumpy] by andre1969
Nov 25, 2008 (11:43 am)
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Replying to: bumpy (Nov 25, 2008 11:21 am)

$30,000 a year to start is pretty damn good for someone just walking in off the street with no previous experience. Hell, those impoverished Indianans could buy a new Civic on that kind of moolah.
 
I imagine that housing is also much more affordable in that area than in many parts of the country. I looked on Realtor.com, and it looks like for maybe $100K, you could get a halfway decent house out there. Not a starter castle or anything like that, but not a shotgun shack, either.
 
I don't know anything about the economic standing of that area, but heck, $14.85 an hour could be a Godsend, if it's an otherwise impoverished area.
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Re: Big Day Coming Up!!!!!!!! [andre1969] by lemko
Nov 25, 2008 (1:22 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 25, 2008 11:43 am)

$30,000 a year in Philly ain't gonna cut it unless you have a decent second job or a wealthy spouse or sugar daddy/mommy. You will most likely live in a 1-bedroom apartment in a marginal neighborhood where the rent alone will consume 45% to 50% of your income. You will also need a bus schedule, a nearby Sav-A-Lot grocery store and a decent handgun. A good used Smith & Wesson Model 10 can be had for around $225.

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