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Buying American Cars What Does It Mean?

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With parts coming from everywhere, does "Buying American" have much meaning anymore? Is quality and price the bottom line?


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Detroit Bailout!!! by motorcity6
Nov 10, 2008 (12:17 pm)
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The Govt is bailing out the UAW, not the auto companies..It's the liberal way, however the we should blame the Big3 system..Our Democrat buddies destroyed Detroit, no drill, no oil, no jobs,and etc.....Took a long time to do, just like cigarettes, but destruction of manufacturing base is essential..
 
At 75 years of age, I could really give a hoot, but our kids will have a hard way to go in achieving wealth..
 
Last week I did buy a 09 Mustang Bullitt in Detroit which is in a garage near the motorcity until I pick it up . The little green car is sitting next to a red 08 Chrysler 300, Hemi.. It was a good deal, nothing great, but gives me the opportunity for a quick breakin schedule starting from Detroit to Cinny, Ohio on I-75 with speeds between 50-70mph and then 70-90 to Venice, Fla..
 
I really doubt if our giddy liberal party will allow Detroit to build these fun cars in the future, for they will be demanding cars designed to run on corn, sugar cane, weeds, manure, tree limbs, hydrogen, butane, or soybeans..
 
After Obama takes office, gas pricing will zoom up again..I figure that to drive the GPGT or the Bullitt will run about $6000/yr in gas costs..but there will be plenty of gas..
 
The Jap stateside plants will be unionized soon after the Obama starts his term, but wages will not really balloon..Ensuring future votes..
 
Enjoy your little 4-banger foreign cars or maybe it's a hybrid, good move, for I need the gas you save to keep my two gas hogs running..
 
If you get laidoff due to the recession, cheer up for you may qualify for welfare under the new govt plan..Change??????, about all you will have left in your pocket..
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Re: Detroit Bailout!!! [motorcity6] by obyone
Nov 10, 2008 (2:10 pm)
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Replying to: motorcity6 (Nov 10, 2008 12:17 pm)

LOL!!
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Second year by m1miata
Nov 10, 2008 (10:50 pm)
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The second year for the Bullitt, hummmm? I thought these are always one year runs. I do like the package. Of course, a few grand off to make the price within reason, is called for, no doubt. Hope good ol' Ford survives. Guess the '09 Stangs are a hang-over party until the 2010 hits the showrooms ( those left ) in the Spring of '09.
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A Plan by m1miata
Nov 12, 2008 (8:47 am)
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How about the a loan from the US taxpayers, after an agreement with the Union for a third cut in pay across the board, including retirement pensions, and the worker pays for their own insurance, with discounted rates available as a large pool insurance rate for basic hospital stay to cover major medical bills only? Management would also have to agree to a third cut in pay.
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Also add in that the Loan should be by andres3
Nov 12, 2008 (10:39 am)
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at 10 to 20% rates, so that taxpayers can benefit and profit rather than suffer and be swindled.
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Re: A Plan [m1miata] by motorcity6
Nov 12, 2008 (12:54 pm)
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Replying to: m1miata (Nov 12, 2008 8:47 am)

Maybe Japan should advance 50 Billion to level the playing field..After all they invaded this country using ex-congressional folks who turned to the field of lobbying to fill their pockets with yen....Tradefree industrial zones were established to allow the invasion..I spent two years running the sales of a Japanese plant in the Battle Creek, Mich area..early-80s, it was a giveaway program and some of the product was "junk".
 
Slice the union pay and get the right to run the plant..Let management's pay stand for the automotive end is a tough game..for somebody has to make decisions..The union is liberal, their game is looking for the the bad side, confusion and complaining is their goal..Spent 6 yrs running a manufacturing plant near Flint and yes, we had the UAW. We had the right to run the plant, the Big3 gave away that right..I have seen paycheck stubs on janitors making !00k/yr. in the late 90s..
 
The Big3 have been burning money for years, and the Govt has finally screwed GM, Ford, and Chrysler with it's ecology stance and lack of domestic oil..The whole scenerio has been in play for years..
 
The whack jobs pushing the "Global Climate" mantra will stiffle the country for they have a good start, and no quick fix is available..Just BS by the volumes..Take a look at the mortgage mess and the history of Freddie and Fannie, DEMOCRATS IN ACTION..Can't wait until they get their hands on HEALTH CARE.. NO HEALTH CARE IS COMING..
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Re: A Plan [motorcity6] by lemko
Nov 12, 2008 (1:13 pm)
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Replying to: motorcity6 (Nov 12, 2008 12:54 pm)

Maybe Japan should also pay the United States back $billions for six+ decades of military protection lest they'd have become the Nippon Soviet Socialist Republic.
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Re: A Plan [lemko] by fintail
Nov 12, 2008 (1:48 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Nov 12, 2008 1:13 pm)

And then Israel and Pakistan can give us back the untold billions they've conned us into giving them, Europe can retroactively pay up for 60 years of defense...of course we'd then have to give something to the other half of Europe for throwing them to the Soviet wolves and enabling the red horror...maybe it would be a wash...or maybe it could prop up the sinking economy
 
EU = EUSSR, NAU - NAUSSR...maybe it's destiny
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Ahhhh, so now by m1miata
Nov 12, 2008 (7:18 pm)
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Now the US auto industry are the victims?
Of course during the better years of great profit, the same three enjoyed trampling those which got in there way, killing off the competition. The unions gladly accepted wages which were very generous. The management made wrong decisions costing billions, yet more money always came along in time to make light of it. They always knew what the customer wanted, so somehow you were to adjust to latest trend they though up. Over one hundred years time to retool for next great generation of car, yet the taxpayer now needs to chip in some extra bucks to retool -- what??? Where, or where has the greatness of American engineering and industry gone? It was not so long ago in history when the USA was top in the game.
 
Yes, a loan is not a bad thing. Yes, keep American jobs. Yes, the union needs to be in on the plan and do their part by taking some deep cuts for a few years. Save the company - save your jobs. If management doesn't perform well in the same period of time as union workers suffer wage wise, then fire them. But by all means take deep cuts now, with the promise of earing what ever a fair sum per hour is say three to five years from now.
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GM, Ford, Chrysler by andres3
Nov 13, 2008 (9:34 am)
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appear to only have competence and profitibility in the sale of trucks and SUV's, therefore, they should scale down to be lean and mean in that segment only.
 
I could live with them surviving as a bit player in the auto industry, but this practice of subsidizing substandard, irrelevant, undesired, and uncompetitive cars has got to stop.

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