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With parts coming from everywhere, does "Buying American" have much meaning anymore? Is quality and price the bottom line?

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#6487 of 7263 captain2...... by cooterbfd Oct 28, 2008 (7:36 pm)
Here is a good article on the 2010 Lacrosse:   http://consumerguideauto.howstuffworks.com/2010-buick-lacrosse.htm
#6488 of 7263 Re: If GM gets rid of Buick... [cooterbfd] by captain2 Oct 29, 2008 (11:27 am)
Replying to: cooterbfd (Oct 28, 2008 1:42 pm) the Australian connection sounds right because not only are we getting G8s over there but also the soon to be new Impala. Oh well, more Americans (and Canadians) out of work I guess. Building cars in Australia obviously not doing anybody in this country any good either. As far as violating any UAW deals go - so what? - what would you think the UAW's remedy would be in some sort of lawsuit - a bid arss judgement that would only hasten GMs bankruptcy? Replies to this message: cooterbfd (Oct 29, 2008 4:10 pm) maverickj (Oct 30, 2008 12:37 pm) circlew (Oct 31, 2008 3:15 am)
#6489 of 7263 Re: If GM gets rid of Buick... [captain2] by cooterbfd Oct 29, 2008 (4:10 pm)
Replying to: captain2 (Oct 29, 2008 11:27 am) First of all, the G8 is built there while GM converts a plant HERE to build them.   Secondly, the agreement says that if cars are to be sold here in big numbers (I believe over 100,000) they have to be built here. Why wouldn't you want that?? Replies to this message: maverickj (Oct 30, 2008 12:37 pm) circlew (Oct 31, 2008 3:15 am)
#6490 of 7263 Re: If GM gets rid of Buick... [cooterbfd] by maverickj Oct 30, 2008 (12:37 pm)
Replying to: cooterbfd (Oct 29, 2008 4:10 pm) I've owned a Ford, Dodge, and a Chevy. Not to happy with Chevy's tho. I just have a preference for American cars. Growing up, my grandpa always told us to always go with American cars. Guess it stuck with me.
#6491 of 7263 Re: If GM gets rid of Buick... [cooterbfd] by circlew Oct 31, 2008 (3:15 am)
Replying to: cooterbfd (Oct 29, 2008 4:10 pm) First of all, the G8 is built there while GM converts a plant HERE to build them   All plans are on hold now...we will see.   Regards, OW
#6492 of 7263 Re: Buy American. [hickey86] by sidious6688 Nov 02, 2008 (1:15 am)
Replying to: hickey86 (Jan 06, 2006 1:14 pm) Note that you would have to compare the Escape to a same year competitor.
#6493 of 7263 Re: I put my money on American [freedomguy] by sidious6688 Nov 04, 2008 (2:44 am)
Replying to: freedomguy (Jan 10, 2006 9:28 pm) For "better value" you have to compare the cost of ownership over time, not the purchase price. Factor in depreciation and the American cars sadly get killed. Replies to this message: cooterbfd (Nov 04, 2008 3:07 am) circlew (Nov 04, 2008 4:05 am) captain2 (Nov 04, 2008 7:28 am) sidious6688 (Nov 05, 2008 2:57 am)
#6494 of 7263 Re: I put my money on American [sidious6688] by cooterbfd Nov 04, 2008 (3:07 am)
Replying to: sidious6688 (Nov 04, 2008 2:44 am) "Factor in depreciation and the American cars sadly get killed. "   Or do they??? When these studies show percentages of depreciation, it is vs. MSRP, and not actual selling price. So depreciation rates aren't as bad as you'd think. Now, if you want to debate why a Toyota sells for closer to MSRP than a Chevy, THAT'S a different story altogether. Replies to this message: circlew (Nov 04, 2008 4:05 am) captain2 (Nov 04, 2008 7:28 am) sidious6688 (Nov 05, 2008 2:57 am)
#6495 of 7263 Re: I put my money on American [cooterbfd] by circlew Nov 04, 2008 (4:05 am)
Replying to: cooterbfd (Nov 04, 2008 3:07 am) Depreciation and residual value either way you loose more buying American cars. Period.   You can put your money on American. It's still a free country. Hope their cars improve, though.   Regards, OW
#6496 of 7263 Re: I put my money on American [cooterbfd] by captain2 Nov 04, 2008 (7:28 am)
Replying to: cooterbfd (Nov 04, 2008 3:07 am) yes and no - because resale value percentages vs. actual price or real street price mean absolutely nothing - it has always been about the total dollars it costs to own anything over a defineable period of time - meaning how much you actually pay for something vs. how much you can sell it for later - in gross dollars. What percentage that resale value might be of MSRP or anything else is unimportant - obviously what IS important, the total dollars lost. The BMW is a car that maintains one of the better resale values in the industry in terms of %residual value - but are also quite expensive to own because the gross dollars of depreciation is quite high. Those 2 sedan favorites, the Accord and the Camry both sell for competitively higher initial prices, have good resale values (much like the BMW) but both usually lead the pack when it comes to true operating expense - the gross dollars lost is less primarily because the the initial price is less. 'American' cars tend to sell new at a lower price than their 'Japanese' counterparts so therefore they must also have a lower resale value - and vice versa. The truth of the matter is that over the shorter term (up to about 5 years) and/or on leases the 'Japanese' cars can very easily be less expensive to own than the cheaper 'American' car.  If you subscribe to the the contention that there is no real long term reliability differences in most cars these days and are willing to drive that car for a long time then the equation will swing very decidedly into the favor of anything that costs less to buy up front - be it American or Korean (or whatever). Statistics, though, tell us that the average car BUYER is keeping a car 4-5 years and overall 'ownership' periods are even less than that when you also consider the 2 to 4 year terms of leases these days. Replies to this message: sidious6688 (Nov 05, 2008 2:57 am)

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