Buying American Cars What Does It Mean?

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With parts coming from everywhere, does "Buying American" have much meaning anymore? Is quality and price the bottom line?

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#6474 of 7263 Re: grbeck [marsha7] by grbeck Oct 28, 2008 (7:21 am)
Replying to: marsha7 (Oct 28, 2008 6:57 am) Those other factors effectively take Philadelphia off the table as a location for a new plant before any concerns about unions even enter the picture...
#6475 of 7263 Re: grbeck [marsha7] by motorcity6 Oct 28, 2008 (9:36 am)
Replying to: marsha7 (Oct 28, 2008 6:57 am) I really am amazed at the opinions scattered around on this board..Your political views are somewhat transparent...If the left hand party gets in, the unions will have a free rein to organize the Asian plants, and satisfy the UAW crowd..That will make Conyers, Levin, Dingell, and Stabenow heroes to the working class once again..The aformentioned politicans of the State of Michigan were behind the fall of the BIG3 by going along with their leftist buddies on drilling bans as well as the Global Warming kooks..First, they had to kill the SUV, which they knew was Detroit's bread and butter..cash cow..The alternate energy grab bag is a real can of worms and us taxpayers are footing the bill, ethanol is a farce, it consumes more energy and shafts the consumer.. The next generation of autos will be not be pleasing for the motoring public..just a pain in backside, lots of battery talk, limited range, gutless wonders, and please don't get in an accident for it will not be pretty.. Somebody on this forum stated that the Japs really care about the American market and us as consumers..The money goes back to Japan and their bank accounts..The purchasers of Asian cars support the economic backbone of the respective foreign govt whether it be Japan or Korea..The Big3 were forced to go to Mexico to stay somewhat competitive..The UAW milked the guts out of Detroit's Big3, however it was a long run and I made a great living dealing with the Big3 and it's suppliers.. I have lost some money in the current Stock Market swoon, however I guess I got lucky because most of my cash was in the Govt Reserve Fund which has been locked for redemption since Sept 16th..and will be paid out 100% next week plus interest..My Michigan properties will find a buyer and my foreclosure lien against a big time developer will be paid.. My next purchase will be a 2009 Mustang GT Bullitt, pricing is improving weekly, the deal is looking better.. Average MPG is around 20...It will be gassed with old fashion non-ethanol 93 octane..You people worry about the climate change for I could give a "hoot", about what comes out of the exhaust pipe..Mother Nature will take care of the earth, not liberals, for they are only interested in your money.. Be an American, buy the Detroit Iron and put Americans back to work..Your UAW pals will make obscene paychecks again and the country will heal..Without Detroit manufacturing the American hertiage will be only a distant memory You can argue about who makes the greatest car later, one should worry about saving the country first..Under the current conditions I would feel guilty about wheeling around in a foreign car of Asian origin..The Europeans don't really bother me since their output is small compared to the total picture..I had my 2 Porsches, great cars, and the 41 Big3 cars owned did their job well. Before election, you should worry about your 401k, for I understand that BHO will take it and add it to your SS account, invested at 3% so you can start drawing from it at retirement..The Govt will own it. I am sure glad that I am 75 and don't have to put up with the "CHANGE", mantra!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Replies to this message: nvbanker (Oct 28, 2008 10:20 am) lemko (Oct 28, 2008 11:36 am) grbeck (Oct 28, 2008 11:38 am) lemko (Oct 28, 2008 11:52 am) tlong (Oct 28, 2008 7:21 pm)
#6476 of 7263 by imidazol97 Oct 28, 2008 (9:47 am)
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#6477 of 7263 You're by imidazol97 Oct 28, 2008 (9:52 am)
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#6478 of 7263 Re: Right on point [imidazol97] by fintail Oct 28, 2008 (10:03 am)
Replying to: imidazol97 (Oct 28, 2008 9:47 am) More liberal media conspiracy garbage from an author of debatable knowledge and insight... Who owns the media?
#6479 of 7263 Re: You're gonna lose your 401k and tax-deferred contribution for CHANGE, hehe. [imidazol97] by fintail Oct 28, 2008 (10:05 am)
Replying to: imidazol97 (Oct 28, 2008 9:52 am) rushlimbaugh.com The politics thread is that way ---->
#6480 of 7263 Re: If GM gets rid of Buick... [cooterbfd] by captain2 Oct 28, 2008 (10:12 am)
Replying to: cooterbfd (Oct 27, 2008 1:57 pm) 2010 Lacrosse will be built HERE, as will any Lucerne replacement I am sure that's the plan with GM and Chrysler teetering on the edge - apparently now trying to get in line for some of that 'freebie' government money http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27399190 that both you and I have contributed over the years - it is difficult for GM to make any claims about anything, including one that would even allow for Buick to continue to exist (in this country) - the subject of this post. Indeed if our erstwhile governemnt is going to push several $billion GMs way, it may be the government that effectively decides whether Buick is worth keeping. The std Lacrosse in China is supplied with a 4 banger - something hard to comprehend (0-60 in 12-15 seconds?) so, of course, the Lacrosse doesn't make it over here - in that form. The question really is - how long do you suppose it will be before even GM realizes that IF it wants to continue losing money selling Buicks that it just might lose less importing them from China - the plants etc. are already in place, and the unlimited cheap labor pool over there won't have UAW affliations. Would also guess that ROC is very protectivewhen somebody like GM wants to come in there and start building cars - by limiting the amount of money that GM is allowed to take out of the country by those monies invested. It may be later than your 2010 date, but my guess is we've seen the last of Buick and possibly even Pontiac, GM will eventually become Chevy only and even that with a much smaller line than they have now, mostly concentrated in trucks and SUVs. Replies to this message: cooterbfd (Oct 28, 2008 1:42 pm) captain2 (Oct 29, 2008 11:27 am) cooterbfd (Oct 29, 2008 4:10 pm) and 2 more...
#6481 of 7263 Re: grbeck [motorcity6] by nvbanker Oct 28, 2008 (10:20 am)
Replying to: motorcity6 (Oct 28, 2008 9:36 am) My experience has been that if you buy Domestic cars new or fairly new, and drive them for less than 60,000 miles before trading them off, you will most likely be very happy with them, and have no complaints. In fact, you may prefer the size and features of a Domestic car over an Asian or other foreign car. Personally, I do. However, if you want to keep a car until it has a couple hundred thousand miles on it, you will prefer an Asian car for sure. The statistics bear this out, resale bears this out, and any honest driver with experience of both will back it up. If you want to drive a car with 175,000 on the clock, your odds will be much better with a Honda than a Dodge.
#6482 of 7263 Re: grbeck [motorcity6] by lemko Oct 28, 2008 (11:36 am)
Replying to: motorcity6 (Oct 28, 2008 9:36 am) I love my GM cars and I love my country! I want to see both GM and the U.S. prosper. What's good for GM is good for the United States. What's bad for GM is also bad for the United States. I immensely enjoy my new Cadillac DTS Performance! Looking forward to another Cadillac in the future...if there is one (Cadillac and/or a future).
#6483 of 7263 Re: grbeck [motorcity6] by grbeck Oct 28, 2008 (11:38 am)
Replying to: motorcity6 (Oct 28, 2008 9:36 am) motorcity6: Be an American, buy the Detroit Iron and put Americans back to work.. Funny, but the last time I checked, a fair percentage of Hondas, Toyotas, Nissans and Hyundais are being built in places like Alabama, Kentucky, Mississippi, Ohio, Tennessee and Texas. Are not the employees of those plants Americans? Or did those states secede from the union while I wasn't looking? motorcity6: Your UAW pals will make obscene paychecks again and the country will heal... So, buy a Chevy, and all will be well. I'm surprised that neither Obama nor McCain came up with that slogan. motorcity6: You can argue about who makes the greatest car later, one should worry about saving the country first.. Given the sales figures, trends in market share, and rankings of various models in publications as disparate as Car & Driver and Consumer Reports, I don't think we need to argue that one...it has been pretty well decided. The market has spoken. motorcity6: Under the current conditions I would feel guilty about wheeling around in a foreign car of Asian origin.. Under current conditions, I would be embarrassed to be a GM executive or UAW official. But then, after posting on this and other auto-related sites over the past eight years, if there is one thing I've learned, it's this: Nothing is ever Detroit's fault. Blame can be laid squarely at the feet of (take your pick): Consumer Reports, people who buy Toyotas and Hondas, the Bush Administration, environmentalists, commie-pinkos who read The New York Times, free trade....have I missed any? Replies to this message: lemko (Oct 28, 2008 11:52 am) tlong (Oct 28, 2008 7:21 pm)