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Buying American Cars What Does It Mean?

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With parts coming from everywhere, does "Buying American" have much meaning anymore? Is quality and price the bottom line?


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Re: american car companies' lousy performance [andre1969] by fezo
Oct 24, 2008 (12:02 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Oct 24, 2008 11:23 am)

The Century wasn't awful but it just cried out for better attention in the interior. Dad wanted something smaller than the DeVilles he'd been leasing and after a long time poking finally pulled the trigger on the Century and almost immediately regretted it. Until he stopped driving he'd keep saying how he should have bought that last DeVille at the end of the lease. Oh, well.
 
He probably would have liked the LaCrosse which was just coming out.
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Re: If GM gets rid of Buick... [captain2] by cooterbfd
Oct 24, 2008 (1:02 pm)
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Replying to: captain2 (Oct 24, 2008 5:55 am)

If GM does away with the Buick nameplate in NA, that's one thing, but what makes you think they would be Chinese built if they keep the nameplate here?? The next gen Lacrosse will be built here on the Epsillon II platform.
 
I agree with the issue of Mexican built cars, but not Canada, for the simple reason that while neither country has their own auto mfr., at least Canadians BUY our cars, while the old Beetle was for years Mexico's most popular car.
 
As far as the money the Big 3 spend on benefits, the new contract signed makes the difference in costs under $700 per car, so close that Toyota is looking at ways of cutting costs in this country to keep their advantage. Imagine that; the union negotiates AWAY something, and automatically non-union companies look to take things away.
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the union effect by steve_ HOST
Oct 25, 2008 (2:58 pm)
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The article linked in this post talks about more than just the affect of unions on American cars but it's a good way to air out the UAW discussion for a while.
 
tlong, "United Automobile Workers of America (UAW)" #4595, 25 Oct 2008 3:21 pm
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Re: If GM gets rid of Buick... [cooterbfd] by captain2
Oct 27, 2008 (1:36 pm)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Oct 24, 2008 1:02 pm)

what makes you think they would be Chinese built
 
you mean other than they already are building and selling them (apparently succesfullly) over there where the Buick name is quite well received? I'll generally agree with your comment about sending our money to Canada is likely preferable to sending it south - however, why should we be having to send it anywhere over any border.
 
Maybe a nice little consumer boycott of any and all cars not assembled with US labor - with parts also not at least 75% made in this country might just make a point.
 
http://autoreview.belproject.com/item/371
 
for the 'Chinese Buick' info.
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Re: If GM gets rid of Buick... [captain2] by cooterbfd
Oct 27, 2008 (1:57 pm)
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Replying to: captain2 (Oct 27, 2008 1:36 pm)

Those vehicles are for the Chinese market ONLY, not here. In fact, they have begun EXPORTING Enclaves to China.
 
The 2010 Lacrosse will be built HERE, as will any Lucerne replacement.
 
There is also Buick talk at "The Rebirth of Buick" as well.
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Re: american car companies' lousy performance [lemko] by sidious6688
Oct 28, 2008 (2:05 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Oct 24, 2008 5:51 am)

There's not much I can say to this. If your experience with american cars has been good, and you prefer their styling, by all means continue to buy them. I know others who have good experiences too. Statistically, there's no comparison though. Any given car may not mirror the population, but your odds of getting a lemon are greater with an american car. There are plenty of subjective qualities to cars - styling, color, etc, these are simply a matter of taste. I don't agree with you about the american versus foreign styling in general, but I admit this is pure opinion. Depreciation is another huge factor - its the greatest expense in owning a car period. The american cars do not due well here.
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Re: If GM gets rid of Buick... [lemko] by grbeck
Oct 28, 2008 (6:55 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Oct 24, 2008 5:56 am)

lemko: I'll believe Toyota really cares about America when they build a huge car plant in North Philly.
 
No car company will build a brand-new plant in a Northeastern city in this day and age. The cost of land is too high, and there is too much congestion (which makes delivering necessary parts and materials to the facility more difficult, and thus expensive). Taxes are too high as well.
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grbeck by marsha7
Oct 28, 2008 (6:57 am)
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How could you leave out the most important factor of all...UNIONS ????????????
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Re: grbeck [marsha7] by grbeck
Oct 28, 2008 (7:21 am)
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Replying to: marsha7 (Oct 28, 2008 6:57 am)

Those other factors effectively take Philadelphia off the table as a location for a new plant before any concerns about unions even enter the picture...

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