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Automotive News & Views Buying American Cars What Does It Mean?
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With parts coming from everywhere, does "Buying American" have much meaning anymore? Is quality and price the bottom line?
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Replying to: captain2 (Oct 23, 2008 2:06 pm) I also think of the retired auto workers who, with their pensions and health care costs minimal, can "trickle down" far more than someone with just Social Security and a 401k, but have to pay for all their healthcare after medicare. But, that must not count.
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Oct 23, 2008 1:42 pm)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Oct 23, 2008 2:26 pm) That's because the American makers are far less efficient with labor (and THAT is largely due to the union). What company can long endure while not trying to be efficient when its competitors are doing better? Do you really believe that maintaining inefficiencies is the path to prosperity for this country?
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Replying to: captain2 (Oct 23, 2008 2:06 pm) Just what percent of the dollar value of Honda vehicles sold here do they build here? Same question for Toyota. How much is sold here that actually is imported rather than assembled here. |
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Oct 23, 2008 4:52 pm) |
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Oct 23, 2008 4:52 pm) Same question for Toyota. How much is sold here that actually is imported rather than assembled here. Here are some numbers I found on the internet, data from 2008: Vehicle - Percent N.A. content (or where built outside US) Impala - Canada 300 - Canada HHR - Mexico PT Cruiser - Mexico Fusion - Mexico Equinox - 55% G6 - 85% Cobalt >75% Malibu >75% Edge - 70% Mustang - 65% Escape - 65% Accord - 60% Odyssey - 75% CRV - 10% Civic - 70% Prius - Japan Corolla - 50% Sienna - 85% Camry >75% However, some articles say the formula is flawed and favors domestic makes. For example, "If a supplier produces a car battery in the United States that is made of 70 percent domestic content, when that battery is installed in a U.S.-built, domestic-brand vehicle, it is considered 100-percent domestic content, says AIAM spokesperson Kim Custer. But if that exact battery is installed in a U.S.-built import-brand vehicle, it is considered only 70-percent domestic content."
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Oct 23, 2008 4:52 pm) The advertising leads people to believe a much higher percent of total output for each brand is built here than actually is. Building here is good.
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Replying to: sidious6688 (Oct 23, 2008 4:20 pm) |
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Oct 23, 2008 2:26 pm) you know this may all be true, it may indeed take 10 UAW employees to do what one employee can do in Kentucky, Ohio, Tennessee, Texas, and Alabama (to name a few) - a really sad commentary on an industry that the US (and the so called Big 3) dominated not that many years ago. Sure all those ludricrous pensions and free healthcare that the US makers count - for whatever portion of the overall economic pie that really is BUT when GM, for example, is spending $2500.00 PER CAR to fund these programs and that also happens to be about what they lose on every car they sell - there is something definitely wrong with this picture. Ford, closes dozens of plants in recent years, buys out the contracts of many of those employed at these plants, so they too can reap the rewards of these negotiated pension programs AFTER they spend their unemployment checks that you and I both funded. And after they do all that to us, then they seek some justification for injecting so more pesos down south of the border? Gimme a break. Ford is a Mexican car manufacturer, Buick will shortly be a Chinese one and then, they expect me to spend my hard earned $ on generally inferior products, watch that money disappear into other economies - and all because the brand names don't happen to end in a vowel??? Thanks anyway, I think I know a way to get some real value for my money and most importantly put more of that money back into the pockets of genuine Americans - where it belongs.
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Oct 24, 2008 3:04 am)
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