With parts coming from everywhere, does "Buying American" have much meaning anymore? Is quality and price the bottom line?
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Re: One other note [grbeck]
by andre1969
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Sep 26, 2008 (8:06 am)
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Replying to: grbeck (Sep 26, 2008 8:04 am)
The 2009 Mustang and Fusion will have abbreviated model years, from what I've read.
It's kinda wild to think that theoretically, 2010 model year cars could start popping up as early as January 1, 2009! I, for one, would like to see the 4-cyl version of the Fusion get an upgrade in power and economy.
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Re: The Slide continues... [lilengineerboy]
by imidazol97
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Sep 26, 2008 (8:07 am)
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Sep 26, 2008 6:40 am)
.Can you pull out where it said that, I just saw where it said it went up by 500 billion every year since 2003
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Re: One other note [grbeck]
by m1miata
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Sep 26, 2008 (8:19 am)
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Replying to: grbeck (Sep 26, 2008 7:23 am)
Perhaps Ford should have taken the Fusion/Milan RWD? I know - I know, too expensive to go the extra mile there. The new Mazda6 is pretty good looking. The Milan, IMHO, is still one of the better shapes, even with the big butt syndrome of today's auto. Anyone seen an article with a comparison between Fusion/Milan and Malibu/Epsilon Gang? From the earlier photos of the interior on the Malibu, I thought it was gonna be something really special - very cool. In reality, it is pleasing enough, but nothing so great as to make the car a winner over car XXX. The back end of the New Malibu looks similar to the old Verona Suzuki, and thus uninspiring. I would rate the New Malibu as a good effort to be in the same league as the rest. Too bad it did not have an original look. The Ford Fusion/Milan is a better effort in this respect.
Would be fun to be in the style wars between domestic and the rest, but alas a more blended look seems to be accepted. We are living in the age of mediocrity. Just look at the big four TV programming efforts. Do you see any shows like the Ed Sullivan hour which had the best of the best talent? No Dean Martin Show. And look at local to national choices when we vote. And the products of crap from China, oh my! Recall a time when a lamp switch worked for a couple decades instead of a couple months? I go back enough years to recall as a kid the days when an American car was a work of art. Those be the 60's. People laughed at this funny VW bug thing. Now the big three laugh no more. Those ugly little cars, like a VW or an egg shaped little Subaru, were easily dismissed by GM and Ford. Ford & GM imitation cars date way back. The Corvair, second gen. would be kinda a neat car, if it had survived. Well maybe???
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Re: One other note [m1miata]
by andre1969
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Sep 26, 2008 (8:21 am)
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Replying to: m1miata (Sep 26, 2008 8:19 am)
Perhaps Ford should have taken the Fusion/Milan RWD? I know - I know, too expensive to go the extra mile there.
Well they make an AWD version of the Fusion/Milan, in addition to the FWD. So I guess a dedicated RWD shouldn't be too hard to do.
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Re: 630 billion spending bill presented to congress contains... [mcdawgg]
by m1miata
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Sep 26, 2008 (8:25 am)
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Replying to: mcdawgg (Sep 26, 2008 3:37 am)
Well yes and no. I looked under the hood of my Honda and it has parts labels of say Honda USA, but those companies are owned by Honda, Japan, no doubt. Lots of components are built here, while some may be made in Japan and assembled here. It provides jobs. Still seems to be a lot of production going on here in the States. Even a BMW may be built in US of A. Of course a Mazda MX-5 is only built abroad.
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Re: The Slide continues... [grbeck]
by fintail
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Sep 26, 2008 (8:29 am)
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Replying to: grbeck (Sep 26, 2008 7:18 am)
Gotta chime in OT...seeing as how Europe was "liberated" by Americans from one bad ideal to another...there's every reason to expect anti-Americanism there, especially among the young. The cultural disaster being seen is a postwar creation. Generally the older people don't hate Americans so much, in my experience...but the youth are jaded and skeptical at best, as they should be.
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Re: One other note [andre1969]
by m1miata
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Sep 26, 2008 (8:29 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Sep 26, 2008 8:21 am)
Can I put orange / red instrument panel lighting on the wish list too? It is better than green.
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Re: The Slide continues... [fintail]
by steve_ HOST
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Sep 26, 2008 (8:31 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Sep 26, 2008 8:29 am)
but the youth are jaded and skeptical
The French kids are the ones flocking to McDonalds, the US style malls and keeping Hollywood movies #1 at the box office.
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Re: 630 billion spending bill presented to congress contains... [mcdawgg]
by dave8697
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Sep 26, 2008 (8:37 am)
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Replying to: mcdawgg (Sep 26, 2008 3:37 am)
% NA by weight or dollar value?
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Re: 630 billion spending bill presented to congress contains... [dave8697]
by mcdawgg
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Sep 26, 2008 (8:55 am)
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Replying to: dave8697 (Sep 26, 2008 8:37 am)
This info is on all new cars - I believe by $ value.
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