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Automotive News & Views Buying American Cars What Does It Mean?
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With parts coming from everywhere, does "Buying American" have much meaning anymore? Is quality and price the bottom line?
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Replying to: circlew (Sep 25, 2008 3:01 pm) |
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Replying to: circlew (Sep 25, 2008 3:01 pm) Biggest Chevy Dealerships Close Down Scary stuff. Hardly scary, unless you work at that dealership. Toyota has 1/3 the number of dealers Ford and Chevy do. Their distribution channels are leaner and more effective. In most places, the dealers are further apart so there is less competition between dealers resulting in higher transaction prices. This is improving the overall health of the market. This was WAYYYY to long in coming.
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Sep 25, 2008 5:43 pm) Right on point. A Ford dealership here 'bouts lasted about 1.5 years after purchasing a long-standing store. Ford is actively reducing number of stores by weeding out weakly performing stores. I did a quick search about Heard and found a lot of comments about how they do business in response to the article. Same had happened about a store that was forced to close in Nashville a couple years ago. |
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Sep 25, 2008 5:43 pm)  I just wonder if there will be enough audacity of hope to turn this entire country around and pull us out of the current slide with the words 'I was kidding, we are really OK . Relax, we're good now. Here, have a Toyota." 
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Replying to: lemko (Sep 25, 2008 3:06 pm) |
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I see the word Camcord used a lot. Not always, but many a time you will see buyers of one never setting foot on the other lot. Loyal Honda owners, liking the engines or say gas mileage of handling, vs. the Toyota owner which likes a softer, more GM like ride and some reliability. That said, Toyota can build a car with great handling, such as the Celica or a Supra. Mostly they seem to build more Buick or Olds. like cars. Toyota really is the Oldsmobile of today. Honda is more like the MoPar kids or the Ford people which liked there Stangs or hotrods. The more attitude company. Nissan could also, in a way be the Chrysler, or say even the American Motors replacement here in the States, as they do come up with new ideas, but the body styles are sometimes odd. I know, they worked through that, and now are back on track to be more of the today's Ford? OK, enough of this babble! Hope GM survives as at least Cadillac and Chevy / Corvette, and Ford makes it some how. I no longer see much hope in Chrysler. The Ford Fiesta looks pretty good up against the Honda Fit. Too bad the Mustang did not get the 3.5 V6 earlier. They are selling the GT and current V6 at good prices, but so low it has to hurt. They need to sell above $25K and $20K to make it. At $8k off V8 and $5K off V6, it ain't looking pretty. Sure the buyer likes the low price, but the dealerships are closing.
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Breakdown the content of those so called American "Toyotas and Hondas" as people like to call them. The parts from those vehicles are probably coming in from Japan Just an FYI, my Camry was Kentucky assembled with 75% NA parts content, not Japan. Most of the US assembled Hondas and Toyotas that I've seen are above 50% NA parts content.
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Replying to: dave8697 (Sep 25, 2008 6:23 pm) I don't think it was the "change" movement, I think it was about every TV station but Fox. Oh, and every other country in the world. Oh and the people that had their home values drop by 20%. Oh and those folks who had their 401k drop by 20-30%... Now we all believe it and that's why things are so much better now than 20 months ago. Oh, "we" definitely don't, we have to wait for 1/20/09 for that, and even then its only if 11/4/08 goes right. I just wonder if there will be enough audacity of hope to turn this entire country around and pull us out of the current slide with the words 'I was kidding, we are really OK . Thats what the creepy old guy and the chick from Alaska are hoping, and I don't think it will work so well for them (or us). It wasn't always like this, I remember way back about 10 years ago when the budget was balanced, there was no national debt, other countries liked us, loans were easy to get, it took me 30 days to get a great starter job out of college, etc. I am ready for another 8 years of economic prosperity and foreign policy that brings back luster to the US. Relax, we're good now. Here, have a Toyota. To their credit, the design and manufacture several cars in the US, which challenges some of the domestics. That said, the vehicles are so dumbed down for the NA driver that I find them off putting.
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Sep 26, 2008 3:43 am) If you really believe the budget was balanced, you're being easily mislead. The deficit went up. The publicized numbers were from "creative" bookkeeping much the same as creative bookkeeping has worked for the Fannie and Freddy and other financial companies. There were items of spending taken off the budget so that they didn't add on; but we still spent the money. National Debt Oh and Clinton and Rubin were where the push to "give" everyone a mortgage and homeownership started. That was aided by people like Dodd and Frank pushing for popularism. I have been waiting to buy a third car and am thinking used. But prices have risen on what I'm looking at since 1 year ago because of gouging by the dealers due to the popularity of 4-cyl economical models. I am thinking a couple more months of this economy dropping from mortgage fiasco and I'll be able to buy something because nothing will be selling. People are going to panic and close their wallets with Thanksgiving and Christmas coming up. Things will slow down. I am looking for American brand small cars.
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