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Buying American Cars What Does It Mean?

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With parts coming from everywhere, does "Buying American" have much meaning anymore? Is quality and price the bottom line?


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My trip report... by lemko
Jan 04, 2006 (11:13 am)
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...from the future of deindustrialized America:
 
4 January 2026
 
"Ten years ago, the fall of General Motors, Ford, and the United Auto Workers came to symbolize the fall of America. For the people of the United States and Canada, Toyota and Honda's promise to build new plants held out hopes of a better life. Ten years later, many of those hopes remain largely unfulfilled. Instead, the transition has brought far more hardship rather than relief. Dramatic increases in infant mortality, suicide, violent crime and corruption have plagued North America.
 
Literally overnight, Americans saw life savings vanish and with it much of the country's investment capital. A corrupt privatization drive, meant to reap the fruits of the free market, instead spawned a class of greedy capitalists.. Between 2012 and 2015, the country underwent an economic contraction worse than that at the height of the Great Depression.
 
The toll exacted by the economic implosion is staggering. The grinding poverty is soul-destroying. Alcoholism is more rampant now than ever. Coupled with virulent drug abuse, depression and a huge upswing in violent street crime, many American men are dying faster and earlier. People live their squalid lives against a backdrop of numbing drunkenness, drug abuse, immorality, crime and violence. Robbery, rape and assault are endemic, and gangs often rule the streets. Thoroughfares are filthy and often unlit at night, and brothels and marauding prostitutes are commonplace. Murder, extortion, thieving, money lending and prostitution are a way of life in this poverty stricken atmosphere.
 
Over the last decade, this nation of more than three hundred million people staggered into turmoil that ripped it apart. Politicians are corrupt. Schools are lousy. Hospitals are ill-equipped. And even though the average income is less than $200 a month, the pitted roads gleam with BMWs, Mercedes, Lexi, and Audis.
 
Survival has become a daily struggle. For many people in living back in 2006, this kind of poverty coupled with violence is unimaginable and the shock can be quite powerful. Eighty percent of children suffer from some form of malnutrition. Throughout the Midwest and Northeast, low-income families are buying less milk, meat and vegetables. A good education has become a luxury commodity affordable only to the offspring of the nouveaux riches. So many children are so busy helping support their parents that school has become an afterthought. This in a country that once boasted some of the highest educational standards in the world. A growing legion of abandoned children spend their days around the city railway stations sniffing glue to dull the hunger pains. At night, hundreds descend into the catacombs of sewer systems. Sporadic violence comes with no warning."
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Re: Purchasing American Cars [jchan2] by day9
Jan 04, 2006 (11:14 am)
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Replying to: jchan2 (Jan 03, 2006 6:59 pm)

LOL, I don't think you will ever find any car that is really good and really cheap.
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Re: Buy American. [rockylee] by day9
Jan 04, 2006 (11:19 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (Jan 03, 2006 5:38 pm)

That is really arrogant.
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Sigh by mirth
Jan 04, 2006 (11:19 am)
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The statistics I stated were not for individual cars, or even individual companies. So, yes, I believe you when you say that the Accord is 70% American. It doesn't change the fact that, when taken as a whole, the Japanese companies "American content" is only 31%.
 
I also didn't say to give American car companies a free pass. Just don't celebrate their troubles.
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Re: My trip report... [lemko] by lemmer
Jan 04, 2006 (11:21 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jan 04, 2006 11:13 am)

Philadelphia must be a whole different world than the South. Industry, including manufacturing, is thriving here. We have basically zero real unemployment. It seems like companies are desperate for employees, from ditch diggers all the way up to executives. The economy couldn't hardly be any better.
 
Maybe you should move down here.
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Re: My trip report... [lemko] by anythngbutgm
Jan 04, 2006 (11:24 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jan 04, 2006 11:13 am)

So America becomes a baron wasteland, an Apocolypse, yet people can afford Benzes, BMW's and Lexus Automobiles? What!
 
Once again, flip the coin. Domestics all of a sudden put the import brands out of business. It's OK right? Those people at the factories and on the showroom floors and the service bays can rot in hell for supporting a no domestic brand right?
 
"Gee daddy, life is wonderful, I am the luckiest kid in the whole world!"
 
"Thank the local Chevy dealer for your wealth and happiness son..."
 
Gimme a freakin break.
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? by anythngbutgm
Jan 04, 2006 (11:27 am)
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BTW, Buick is growing at a rapid rate in China. Does that mean we should get the hell out of China? We sure as heck don't belong there then.
 
Might want to stop buying that Middle eastern Oil for that 12mpg Cadillac...
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. by anythngbutgm
Jan 04, 2006 (11:30 am)
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Hey if I support DMC and FMC, am I going to contribute to the demise of the U.S.?
 
Support GM or face the Apocolypse?
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Hey by anythngbutgm
Jan 04, 2006 (11:35 am)
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- Might want to tell Ford to dump the PAG...
- Dump Mazda...
- Tell GM to dump Suzuki, Isuzu, Saab...
- Eliminate all ties to NUMMI...
- Might as well kick Chrysler out of the country while we are at it, since they are part of a Daimler colaboration...
 
Watch the landscape become littered with modern interpretations of Citations and Pintos... Oh what a wonderful America we'd be living in!
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Re: Hey [anythngbutgm] by harrychezt
Jan 04, 2006 (11:43 am)
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Replying to: anythngbutgm (Jan 04, 2006 11:35 am)

Hey, you forgot GM-DAT, maybe they should leave S Korea, then?
GM Owns/Controls what is left of Daewoo( GM-Daewoo Automotive Technologies, which I read now also include 15% stake by Suzuki and a few % by Chinese company GM makes stuff with in China on a joint effort?).
Here's the info on GM-DAT
http://www.gm.com/company/corp_info/global_operations/asia_pacific/kore.html
 
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