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With parts coming from everywhere, does "Buying American" have much meaning anymore? Is quality and price the bottom line?
#18045 of 18912 Re: First American Lexus? [ateixeira]
Apr 23, 2013 (5:44 pm)
Impala isn't on the FuelEconomy.gov site yet, which is my source.
There's actually a rough formula you can use to estimate the interior volume of a car. It's: (front shoulder room * front legroom * front headroom)/1728 + (rear shoulder room * rear legroom * rear headroom)/1728.
1728 is what you use to convert from cubic inches to cubic feet.
Also, the EPA is a bit outdated on a few of their stats. IIRC, they list the new LaCrosse at 100 cubic feet. That's the old, W-body LaCrosse. The new one is something like 103 or 104 cubic feet I think. The way to tell if they're quoting the old W-body figures is if they list cargo volume at 16 cubic feet. That's the old W-body. The new one only has something like a 13 cubic foot trunk.
As for the Malibu, 95 is also the old Malibu. I think the new one is rated at something like 100 or 101 cubic feet. Doing the calculation I showed above, it should come out to 54.63 cubic feet of front seat room, 45.60 in the rear, or 100.23 total. The new Malibu has a LOT more shoulder room than the previous model, 57.5" up front and 57.1 in back. The old one was something like 55.5" up front, 53.9 in the back. IMO, that's compact territory. However, if I was to assign an arbitrary value on the Malibu's rear seat legroom, based on other cars I've had experience with, I'd put it at around 32-33" at best, whereas the "official" measurements put it at something like 36.8". I'm basing that 32-33" figure on my old '68 Dart, which was rated around 32", my '76 LeMans, which is rated around 32.9", and my '67 Catalina convertible, which is rated around 33.9".
As for the Impala, I just ran its measurements through my calculation, and come out with 61.23 cubic feet up front, 49.01 in the back, and 110.24 total. However, I find its 45.8" of front legroom a bit suspect. It's very, VERY rare to see a vehicle listed with much more than 43". I'd imagine that if you looked up all the stats, just about every vehicle ever built in the last 50 years falls between 41" and 43".
Anyway, when official 2014 Impala figures get released, I'll be curious to know. If it's 110.24, remember, you heard it here first!
Oh, incidentally, my formula nailed the 2000 Intrepid and Impala to a tee. 104.4 for the Intrepid, 104.6 for the Impala. But the EPA rounds off, so the numbers listed are 104 for the Trep, 105 for the Impala. But, I remember seeing an old comparison chart on a Dodge site that took it to the tenths, and they showed 104.4 and 104.6.
#18046 of 18912 Re: First American Lexus? [xrunner2]
Apr 23, 2013 (5:46 pm)
I take it as "whatever", "I'm not impressed", etc. Say it to a cat and they just look at you cockeyed like you done lost yo' mind.
#18047 of 18912 Re: 1941 Dodge D3 Window Business Coupe [busiris]
Apr 23, 2013 (8:51 pm)
I don't know about a dozen, but, I put 3 guys in the trunk once to smuggle them into a drive-in movie. Conversely, the trunk of my 48 Chevy Town Sedan is tiny, and, won't hold much stuff at all
#18048 of 18912 Re: 1941 Dodge D3 Window Business Coupe [oldbearcat]
Apr 24, 2013 (6:14 am)
So...those people were alive, right?
#18049 of 18912 Re: First American Lexus? [xrunner2]
Apr 24, 2013 (11:48 am)
Meh is an internet derived cliche for disregarding something or being unimpressed. Garfield the cat would probably say it a lot.
I'd wager the American built ES would have no significant quality differences from the Avalon, which is generally regarded as a solid car.
#18050 of 18912 Re: First American Lexus? [fintail]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Apr 24, 2013 (4:27 pm)
I thought the term was older than that - one dictionary site says "Origin: 1990-95; popularized on the TV show The Simpsons."
I would have guessed it was Yiddish and way older.
#18051 of 18912 Re: First American Lexus? [steve_]
Apr 24, 2013 (5:30 pm)
well, I only see it on the internet. Sounds right though, I think Lisa started it
#18052 of 18912 Re: First American Lexus? [fintail]
Apr 24, 2013 (6:02 pm)
"Meh is an internet derived cliche for disregarding something or being unimpressed. Garfield the cat would probably say it a lot".
OK. Meh. Have not heard this term. But, considering the banality of "current" communication on media today, "meh" is relatively tame and forgettable. Meh!
#18053 of 18912 Re: First American Lexus? [xrunner2]
Apr 24, 2013 (6:07 pm)
That's a good way to look at it - "meh" is kind of a meh thing to say But it fits in some places.
#18054 of 18912 Re: First American Lexus? [fintail]
Apr 24, 2013 (6:11 pm)
"Meh"? Sounds dopey to me. In my generation, it was and IS, "whatever".