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Buying American Cars What Does It Mean?

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With parts coming from everywhere, does "Buying American" have much meaning anymore? Is quality and price the bottom line?

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#17468 of 18081 Re: Challenger Recall [busiris] by lemko

Mar 21, 2013 (10:10 am)

Replying to: busiris (Mar 21, 2013 9:58 am)
Makes as much sense as those folks who purchased an Impala SS with the inline six back in the 1960s.

#17469 of 18081 Re: Challenger Recall [busiris] by andre1969

Mar 21, 2013 (11:05 am)

Replying to: busiris (Mar 21, 2013 9:58 am)
Maybe its just me, but having a Challenger with just a V-6 seems a bit weird...
 
It does, but apparently they're no slouch. I just looked up some numbers from here: http://www.zeroto60times.com/Dodge-0-60-mph-Times.html
 
Looks like a Challenger with the 3.6 V-6 is good for 0-60 in about 6.3 seconds. Even the Charger SXT is good for 6.5, and in the little Avenger, they're showing 6.2.
 
Of course, a Hemi's gonna be faster. But, any of those three listed above would be quicker than any car I've ever owned. I think my 2000 Park Ave is good for 0-60 in around 7.5 seconds. Dunno what my Ram would be. There are so many configurations that can change the weight by a significant amount, different axle ratios (mine ha s 3.21, but I think a lot of them have a 3.55). That site I posted above lists a 2013 Ram Hemi at 0-60 in 6.0 seconds. I don't think it's that fast though.
 
Hate to say it though, but if I bought a Challenger, I'd probably succumb to peer pressure and get the Hemi. Don't wanna be typecast driving a chick car!

#17470 of 18081 Re: Challenger Recall [andre1969] by dieselone

Mar 21, 2013 (11:40 am)

Replying to: andre1969 (Mar 21, 2013 11:05 am)
Looks like a Challenger with the 3.6 V-6 is good for 0-60 in about 6.3 seconds. Even the Charger SXT is good for 6.5, and in the little Avenger, they're showing 6.2.
 
That's significantly quicker than the much heralded mid 90's Impala SS. I doubt a 427 Impala SS could match a current v6 Challenger.

#17471 of 18081 Re: Challenger Recall [lemko] by ateixeira

Mar 21, 2013 (11:58 am)

Replying to: lemko (Mar 21, 2013 10:10 am)
Maybe they recalled the V6s to put Hemis in them.
 
Sounds like they're plenty quick, but I'd want the Hemi for the sound.

#17472 of 18081 Re: Challenger Recall [ateixeira] by andre1969

Mar 21, 2013 (12:18 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Mar 21, 2013 11:58 am)
Sounds like they're plenty quick, but I'd want the Hemi for the sound.
 
I'd be happy with the 3.6 V-6 in something like a Charger, which I would view as an every day sedan. Still quick enough for most needs, but fairly easy on the fuel bill.
 
but, to me, something like a Challenger is more of a toy, an extravagance. Something to treat yourself to that hopefully eases midlife crisis. So in that case, you might as well go all the way!
 
Strangely though, some of these new, high-powered engines really don't sound all that great to me. I don't think there's anything special about the sound of the Hemi in my Ram. One of our IT guys has a V-8 Camaro convertible. Brutally fast I'm sure, but it just doesn't sound all that hot. And, one day, I even heard a fairly new Corvette start up, and it even sounded a bit underwhelming.
 
I think the problem is that they're too sophisticated these days, and the sound is more tame, more faked, somehow. So even if the performance is there, the sound just seems lacking. Either that, or I just got too accustomed to the sound of a 360 with no muffler.

#17473 of 18081 Re: Challenger Recall [andre1969] by ateixeira

Mar 21, 2013 (1:03 pm)

Replying to: andre1969 (Mar 21, 2013 12:18 pm)
To be honest I like the sound of the Mustang V8 the most, out of the 3.

#17474 of 18081 Re: Challenger Recall [ateixeira] by dieselone

Mar 21, 2013 (2:11 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Mar 21, 2013 1:03 pm)
Yeah, the Mustang sounds sweet, and that goes for all of the v8 versions.
 
Last year at the Chicago autoshow, Ford had a 2011 Mustang GT500 strapped to a dyno. Wow, it made the hairs on my neck stand up it sounded so good. For whatever reason, Ford has done a great job on the Mustang's sound track going all the way back to '85 or so.
 
My buddy with the Tundra has a dealer installed TRD dual exhaust and it sounds pretty good. But honestly it's almost to loud.

#17475 of 18081 Re: Challenger Recall [ateixeira] by busiris

Mar 21, 2013 (3:02 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Mar 21, 2013 11:58 am)
I dunno....
 
Seems like marrying the prettiest girl in town, then sleeping in separate beds at night...
 
It just doesn't seem natural to me, but I guess if you really want that model, and that's what's in your price range, its a logical choice...
 
But, I do agree that the 6-cylinder of today is a far cry from the 6-cylinder I had in my 1969 4-door Chevy Nova... By just about any standard...

#17476 of 18081 Re: Challenger Recall [busiris] by toomanyfumes

Mar 23, 2013 (6:30 am)

Replying to: busiris (Mar 21, 2013 3:02 pm)
I bought a new Mustang last year, and originally was going to get tha GT. I ende with the six, though. It was around eight grand cheaper, I get 23 MPG in daily driving, and it's still plenty quick with 305 HP and six-speed manual.
 
I do miss the sound and low end torque of a V-8, though. A co-worker got an aftermarket exhaust on his GT, sounds great at idle, but he said the sound gets tiring on the freeway.

#17477 of 18081 I fail to see by marsha7

Mar 23, 2013 (7:27 am)

a problem with a V6...if the V6 now has 300-plus HP, more than many V8's of the last few decades, why not get the better gas mileage???
 
If I bought a new 300, I would get the V6...who wants a 14 mpg Hemi with gas at this price???
 
I already have one in my 2004 Ram pickup...one Hemi sucking gas is enough, thank you...

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