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With parts coming from everywhere, does "Buying American" have much meaning anymore? Is quality and price the bottom line?
#17436 of 18912 Re: Other vehicular stand-ins... [robr2]
Mar 12, 2013 (5:21 pm)
The top vehicle is just awful. It looks like a bad base model 10 year old Volvo S80.
#17437 of 18912 Re: Verano vs. ILX [ateixeira]
Mar 12, 2013 (9:40 pm)
I'd like to drive a Verano turbo, but then I'm one of those weirdos that thinks the Cruze drives okay. So a nicer interior, quieter cabin and 100 extra horsepower doesn't sound like a bad direction to take. TTAC did a very positive video review on this car recently, and TTAC hardly has a rep for being GM lovers.
As for the ILX, I'm having a hard time figuring out why I'd spend an extra $8k on this over an Civic Si sedan, and I'm a current Acura owner. Leather is nice, and it looks more mature, but the 13 Civics have the improved interior and more sound deadening, not to mention the Si has a front limited slip standard and available navigation that can't even be optioned at ALL on the ILX 2.4. Come to think of it, the Si seems like a pretty fun package for $23K for the sedan. I'd like to drive one of those too. Is mid-30's too old to be seen in one?
#17438 of 18912 Re: Verano vs. ILX [tifighter]
Mar 13, 2013 (12:47 am)
TTAC did a very positive video review on this car recently, and TTAC hardly has a rep for being GM lovers.
Interesting. A regular here posts links to TTAC, but I must've missed that particular link of his.
#17439 of 18912 Re: Verano vs. ILX [uplanderguy]
Mar 13, 2013 (2:58 am)
I am pretty sure I read that test, if it is the one I am thinking of the strange this is that they loved the shifter on their test car and compared it favorably to a Honda shifter ( but it may have been a different review of the car, I know at least one test did, and that would seem to suggest either an improvement in the shift quality happening at some point or that the shift quality is a gamble).
#17441 of 18912 Re: Verano vs. ILX [imidazol97]
Mar 13, 2013 (8:19 am)
It's entirely possible that the press car Autoblog test drove had an abused clutch/shifter.
I'd lean toward a Regal but those do cost a bunch more.
ILX seems pointless to me, give me a refreshed Civic Si or an Accord.
#17442 of 18912 Re: Verano vs. ILX [ateixeira]
Mar 13, 2013 (8:59 am)
Direct link to the TTAC Verano Turbo video review.
And here's a direct link to a CNET Cooley review of the Verano Turbo.
Neither of these guys are known for pulling punches, and while Cooley is critical per usual, he never singles out the transmission. All that said, I'm guessing the automatic is better suited for this car anyhow given its mission as a quiet cruiser vs a sport sedan. And with the torque numbers it produces, I bet the automatic works very well. It sounds like a nice everyday car, if you are a sedan person.
As for the ILX, one problem is Honda has too many better alternatives in the Civic Si, TSX (which is going away) and the Accord. In fact, after a recent review of the RLX, I'd say a loaded Accord Touring is a solid alternative to that at over $20k less. The new TL and MDX can't come fast enough for Acura if they want to keep customers coming to the showroom.
#17443 of 18912 Re: quote from the Buick dealer [imidazol97]
Mar 13, 2013 (9:29 am)
2001 base model
#17444 of 18912 Re: Verano vs. ILX [tifighter]
Mar 13, 2013 (9:32 am)
"A compact that feels like you're driving more than you paid for" is about as nice as Cooley ever is to a car.
He usually likes the $90,000 plus stuff, too.
Funny to see no-lift shift and rev matching on a quiet tuned car. Maybe the sporty features come from the Astra side of the family.
#17445 of 18912 Re: Verano vs. ILX [ateixeira]
Mar 13, 2013 (9:39 am)
This car shares a legacy powertrain from the Cobalt SS and HHR SS right? They both had the no lift shift feature as well.