Buying American Cars What Does It Mean?

18081 messages,  Last post on May 23, 2013 at 5:44 PM

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With parts coming from everywhere, does "Buying American" have much meaning anymore? Is quality and price the bottom line?

#17426 of 18081 Re: Other vehicular stand-ins... [fintail] by andre1969

Mar 12, 2013 (11:42 am)

Replying to: fintail (Mar 12, 2013 11:29 am)
And yeah, shuttling these cars back and forth would be a cool retirement job. A mere 30-something years away for me
 
It does sound like a fun, but I wonder if, once you're actually doing it for a living, it would feel too much like work, and lose its charm?
 
If I ever find myself retired/fired/laid-off/whatever, it might be something to look into.

#17427 of 18081 Re: Other vehicular stand-ins... [uplanderguy] by busiris

Mar 12, 2013 (11:50 am)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Mar 12, 2013 10:36 am)
To my knowledge, those are only sold to police departments, not even rental fleets. I wonder if it was an 'unmarked' car...although it's kind of funny that a car that's only sold to police departments would be an unmarked car.
 
If it were a police vehicle, it would not have had the temporary tag on it in SC, so I would think its something else. Could possibly be a rental, because SC does issue temp tags to rental companies. Either way, the style was enough to capture my attention, and the gray color really enhanced its appeal, at least to me.
 
I went to the Chevrolet web-site and couldn't even find the Caprice listed in the model lineup. That's a shame, because I think (based only on my very brief observation of the car in motion) that its a design with some sales-appeal.

#17428 of 18081 Re: Verano vs. ILX [ateixeira] by fintail

Mar 12, 2013 (11:50 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Mar 12, 2013 11:38 am)
Surprised at the result, but maybe not really. Other than some styling issues, the Verano looks nicer, especially inside. ILX really makes me yawn.
 
But to echo some in the comments, that segment is going to be shaken up when the CLA and new A3 hit the road here.

#17429 of 18081 Re: Other vehicular stand-ins... [busiris] by robr2

Mar 12, 2013 (12:29 pm)

Replying to: busiris (Mar 12, 2013 10:18 am)
I saw what I think was a new Caprice today (it was definitely a Caprice, because I could see the "Caprice" emblem on the side).
 
Did you see this:
 

 
or this:
 

 
There is no "Caprice" emblem on the side of the Caprice. There is the "Impala" emblem on the rear pillar of the Impala:
 

#17430 of 18081 Re: Other vehicular stand-ins... [robr2] by gagrice

Mar 12, 2013 (1:16 pm)

Replying to: robr2 (Mar 12, 2013 11:24 am)
I passed a caravan of old guys driving two CTS's and two Captivas...
  
That's going to be my retirement job.

 
It sounds like the back haul drivers for U-Haul and Penske keep real busy returning trucks from Texas and elsewhere to California.

#17431 of 18081 Re: Other vehicular stand-ins... [robr2] by busiris

Mar 12, 2013 (2:18 pm)

Replying to: robr2 (Mar 12, 2013 12:29 pm)
The car I was similar to the silver one, in that the front fenders (well, at least the one on the right side) had the "inset" behind the front wheel on the front fender, and it clearly had "Caprice" on that insert. That's how I knew it was a Caprice.
 
The front had the Chevy "Bow-tie" in the middle of a relatively small front grill.
 
It may be a one-of-a-kind vehicle, but I know what I saw...
 
Check out this video...
 
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=DqLNs6776ow&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DDqLNs6776o- - w
 
The car I saw was very similar to the first red car shown (about 10 seconds into the clip) in the video ...

#17432 of 18081 Re: Other vehicular stand-ins... [busiris] by uplanderguy

Mar 12, 2013 (4:04 pm)

Replying to: busiris (Mar 12, 2013 2:18 pm)
Our local cops' Caprices are a couple years old, but they only say "Caprice" on the decklid.
 
Geez, that silver pic--doesn't that look like a larger Audi in places?

#17433 of 18081 Re: Other vehicular stand-ins... [robr2] by berri

Mar 12, 2013 (4:17 pm)

Replying to: robr2 (Mar 12, 2013 12:29 pm)
I like those comparison photos. The silver Caprice looks to have a bit of Audi and a bit of more recent Pontiac influence (and a Ford Taurus touch on the front fender), but by and large it seems to me a bit clumsy looking compared to the blue Impala. However, if you like a big V8 rwd, but are on a budget, I suppose the Caprice makes some sense.

#17434 of 18081 Re: Verano vs. ILX [ateixeira] by imidazol97

Mar 12, 2013 (6:02 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Mar 12, 2013 11:38 am)
>Interesting read.
 
ILX & Verano, autoblog
 
I read the AutoBlog article because of your comments. I expected a C&D type review based on the concept that everyone is wanting to drive a racecar. Instead, I settled into reading a fair and careful description of the two cars.
 
They did peg one thing and that is that the automatic is the better option in the Verano for both its market demographic and its lack of a higher quality manual. I wonder if that "miss" in the manual and shifter is to keep the manual in the ATS more attractive, assuming it's a good quality fit. I was surprised at their honesty of the Civic-like shortcomings on the ILX.
 
"Our final vote was tallied, and the decision was unanimous – we all preferred the Buick Verano Turbo over the Acura ILX Premium.
 
"Throughout the entire comparison, the ILX simply couldn't shake its Civic roots. It was constantly referred to as "the Honda" during our radio chatter (we never once called the Verano "the Chevrolet"), and we couldn't stop thinking about the still-outstanding Civic Si each time we slid behind the Acura's wheel."
 
The real success here is that the Verano is given a fair evaluation by some carguys who are more aggressive driving-oriented than most of us.

#17435 of 18081 Re: Verano vs. ILX [fintail] by jpp5862

Mar 12, 2013 (6:18 pm)

Replying to: fintail (Mar 12, 2013 11:50 am)
I'd agree, I was less than impressed with the Verano I had for a rental a couple
of weeks ago but I'm still not wowed by the ILX. I wouldn't drop $30k on either of them.
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