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With parts coming from everywhere, does "Buying American" have much meaning anymore? Is quality and price the bottom line?
#15735 of 18919 Re: The new US manufacturing [busiris]
Dec 12, 2012 (3:05 pm)
They just did that story-line on CSI recently. Pro assassin uses 3D printer to make one-use disposable gun to kill someone. Of course, they caught him anyway.
#15736 of 18919 Re: Shopping "American" this weekend... [busiris]
Dec 12, 2012 (3:07 pm)
It's too bad we don't see more Focuses and Cruzes exported. Subaru's actually expanding US production, Mazda (who doesn't actually HAVE money right now) is expanding North American production.
The only ones that can't seem to export or increase demand are the ones run by the UAW. I personally don't mind unions. Unless the unions are run by criminally negligent goofballs. Which too many of them are.
#15737 of 18919 Re: The new US manufacturing [busiris]
Dec 12, 2012 (5:06 pm)
Seems like there's a downside to everything. I seem to remember an old Twilight Zone episode "Valley of the Shadow" (IIRC) where this very thing happened.
As much as I've watched the Twilight Zone, that didn't sound all that familiar, but then it hit me...that was one of those ill-fated hour long episodes, wasn't it? IIRC, it involved a man and his dog in a '59 Chevy Impala convertible driving on a back road, and crashing into an invisible force field?
#15738 of 18919 Re: The new US manufacturing [andre1969]
Dec 12, 2012 (6:31 pm)
Correct! He wandered into a community of "exceptional citizens" that had this technology. In the end, he got booted out of the community because he didn't pass the "membership" test (by scanning and creating the handgun in an attempt to escape with one of the residents). They somehow swiped his memory and restored the events to where the accident never happened.
At least, that's how I remember it. It's been a long time since I saw it...
#15740 of 18919 Re: Shopping "American" this weekend... [bpizzuti]
Dec 12, 2012 (6:42 pm)
It's too bad we don't see more Focuses and Cruzes exported
For Ford, I think the new Focus is already being built in plants around the globe (maybe using a different badge?). Don't know about the Cruze, but is it basically an Opel like a lot of GM's other new vehicles? If that's the case, it too may be redundant to other GM global plants.
#15741 of 18919 Re: The new US manufacturing [steve_]
Dec 12, 2012 (6:44 pm)
If it's got a 59 Impala convertible, it's OK by me
#15742 of 18919 Re: Shopping "American" this weekend... [bpizzuti]
Dec 12, 2012 (8:27 pm)
It's too bad we don't see more Focuses and Cruzes exported.
I don't think it is practical with UAW labor building them in the USA.
The Focus is only 40% US content. The Cruze is 56% US Content.
In the case of the BMW X3, X5 & X6 they are only 20-25% US content. With final assembly in the USA.
#15743 of 18919 Re: Shopping "American" this weekend... [gagrice]
Dec 13, 2012 (5:08 am)
Yeah, but both are supposed to be "world" cars, which should theoretically mean they could be built anywhere and sent anywhere. Of course, both companies still have quite a bit of overcapacity compared to sales.
#15744 of 18919 Re: Shopping "American" this weekend... [bpizzuti]
Dec 13, 2012 (5:32 am)
Yeah, but both are supposed to be "world" cars, which should theoretically mean they could be built anywhere and sent anywhere.
Both are definitely world cars - they are made and sold all over the world:
The Focus is made in Germany, Russia, US, Thailand and China.
The Cruze is made in Australia, Brazil, China, India, Kazakhstan, Russia, Vietnam, Korea, Thailand and the US.
Malibu: US, South Korea, China, Uzbekistan
Escape/Kuga: US, Germany, Spain
Fusion, Mondeo: US, Belgium (although the latter is closing)
The reason that BMW exports so much of the US based production is because they don't have factories elsewhere to make those crossovers and the value of the US dollar. Believe me, if they could make them cheaper in their markets (Europe) they would.