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With parts coming from everywhere, does "Buying American" have much meaning anymore? Is quality and price the bottom line?
#15472 of 18912 Re: back to the topic [andre1969]
Dec 04, 2012 (1:50 pm)
Well, let's just say that stiletto heels and a pair of circus dwarfs were involved, and leave it at that! At least I was able to wipe the footprints off the rear window
You need to be careful. A parked rocking Park Ave is likely to result in someone calling 911 to report a stroke, heart attack, seizure, or some other kind of medical emergency;)
On a serious note it wasn't anything all that exciting. It just didn't seem to age very well, and probably wasn't taken care of very well over the years. I haven't been all that religious about putting leather conditioner on it, so I'm partly to blame.
That pretty much describes what I've seen. When I was looking at used Suburbans a while back, many with leather, had a drivers seat that like crap by 50k miles and was partially why I bought one with cloth.
#15473 of 18912 Re: back to the topic [fintail]
Dec 04, 2012 (1:52 pm)
Ford leather seems paper thin. Something odd about it.
No question, but I've had decent luck with avoiding rips from normal wear and tear on Fords. Not that I have a lot of experience, I've only had two cars with leather.
I wonder with GM if it doesn't partially have something to due with the seat padding. Seems cars like the park ave and trucks have thick padded seats, maybe that causes the leather to be flexed more making it more likely to crease, crack, and eventually tear.
#15474 of 18912 Re: back to the topic [andre1969]
Dec 04, 2012 (1:56 pm)
I'd think in terms of buying a seat from a recycling yard and using the cover for my own seat. I checked car-parts.com and there are leather seats with heat option. The cover is essentially clipped on with some wires involved too. The seat comes off the floor with a few bolts and it's out of the car after lots of electrical wires are unclipped. I saw seats for $150 when searching using Columbus as a location and some for $350...
#15475 of 18912 Re: back to the topic [dieselone]
Dec 04, 2012 (1:56 pm)
Luckily for me, MBs tend to have high quality seating. On older models, sometimes the drivers side left bolster would wear through - but usually took a good 15-20 years or maybe 200K miles. My E55 has very high quality perforated leather - now over 10 years old with very little wear showing. I am happy with the "Tex" fake leather though, looks and feels nice enough, never wears out.
Seat padding + thin leather makes sense. Some of the worst issues I have seen are early 90s Lexus and Acura that had any sun or harsh weather exposure. Crack, tear, even the steering wheels would go.
#15476 of 18912 Re: back to the topic [fintail]
Dec 04, 2012 (2:03 pm)
uckily for me, MBs tend to have high quality seating.
Yeah, I've noticed that when riding in a MB. I can't complain about the seating material in my Expedition, I don't expect or really want it to be overly soft or luxurious. I prefer it to be able to handle kids and a big dog which it does a good job.
After 5 years and 112k miles of abuse, it's held up well.
#15477 of 18912 Re: back to the topic [dieselone]
Dec 04, 2012 (2:10 pm)
It's too bad there isn't (that I know of) a domestic vinyl that both looks/feels nice and is durable. Would be perfect for haulers like yours.
#15478 of 18912 Re: back to the topic [dieselone]
Dec 04, 2012 (5:33 pm)
Stiletto heels and female anatomy probably means Andre is drawn to the new Lexus grill too!
#15479 of 18912 Re: back to the topic [fintail]
Dec 04, 2012 (5:35 pm)
I've owned several leather Ford products and my opinion was they were closer to vinyl than cow skin, until I rented the latest Explorer - that is a very nice seat IMHO.
#15480 of 18912 Re: back to the topic [fintail]
Dec 04, 2012 (8:46 pm)
I am happy with the "Tex" fake leather though, looks and feels nice enough, never wears out.
I have wondered about that. All the MLs I have sat in have the MB Tex. Looks and feels nice enough. So you say it wears better than leather? Leather is a $1700 option. I had custom fitted Sheep skins in one PU with leather and really liked it in both hot and cold weather. Might do that if I settle on the ML350 Bluetec.
#15481 of 18912 Re: back to the topic [gagrice]
Dec 05, 2012 (2:56 am)
I do not think that leather can add more comfort to you and that is not a good idea to pay them extra money on that.