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With parts coming from everywhere, does "Buying American" have much meaning anymore? Is quality and price the bottom line?
#14396 of 18080 Re: lemko [andre1969]
by berri
Sep 21, 2012 (5:58 pm)
The key exec that got the Mustang through the Deuce was Don Frey who went on to become CEO of the old Bell & Howell (movie camera's and trade schools like DeVry Tech). I think Iaccoca maybe sometimes took some very liberal credit for things in his career, but he was a consummate marketeer. Of course the same can probably be said for the designer Raymond Loewy of Studebaker fame.
Sep 24, 2012 (9:52 am)
Of course the same can probably be said for the designer Raymond Loewy of Studebaker fame.
For sure. He was great at getting management to buy into some new stuff, but the well-regarded '53 coupes were largely the work of Bob Bourke and the Avanti was the work of Tom Kellogg, Bob Andrews, and John Ebstein. I met Kellogg a couple times and Ebstein once. Both are deceased.
#14398 of 18080 Re: lemko [uplanderguy]
by fezo
Sep 24, 2012 (11:26 am)
Odd one here. My daughter's boyfriend is going to school to be a union electrician. While he has a car (a story for another day) he's driving his dad's Sentra. Since it's not UAW/CAW it's not allowed in the union lot. He's told further down the road this will be a bigger issue so when he buys next to stick to the list. OK so far. I'm familiar with the UAW lists. For 2012 a Fusion is not on the list but a Mazda 6 is which makes sense for what they are trying to do.
The odd thing to me is he tells me one of his fellow students bought a new Dart and was told to trade for something else. It is assembled by UAW labor in Belvidere, IL. I Google the list and there are no listing for 2013 cars at all! I think she got caught on that since I have not seen cars off the list because of high out of US content (in the Dart that is considerable since all engines and transmissions are imported).
I don't suspect he's up to buying new yet anyway. I told him to work out a deal with my other daughter's boyfriend. He has a Cruze. Only problem is that it sucks. Nice enough car but has been a warranty nightmare.
#14399 of 18080 Re: lemko [fezo]
by bpizzuti
Sep 24, 2012 (11:28 am)
Interesting story, mind if I share it with a few people I know?
Sep 24, 2012 (12:16 pm)
I notice the Ram 1500 has an asterisk by it. I wonder if I tried to drive one of those into a Union parking lot, if they'd scrutinize the VIN to make sure it didn't come by way of south of the border?
#14402 of 18080 Re: lemko [bpizzuti]
by fezo
Sep 24, 2012 (12:20 pm)
Go right ahead. Here's the 2012 list.
Hey, look! On teh coming in 2013 Union vehicles there's the Dart!
#14403 of 18080 Re: lemko [fezo]
by bpizzuti
Sep 24, 2012 (12:23 pm)
I tell ya, anyone trying to dictate to me what car I'm allowed to buy is going to have a VERY thin time of things. I don't care WHO it is.
Sep 24, 2012 (1:12 pm)
Is there a list of American made vehicles from non-UAW plants?
#14405 of 18080 Re: lemko [ateixeira]
by fezo
Sep 24, 2012 (1:29 pm)
Ask Honda.